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  • Originally posted by ColWallace View Post
    Read the Thomas Hauser PED stories where he timelines events in this matter. Basically a strong rumour Floyd had failed three doping tests went around the boxing industry. Manny's legal team got wind of it and tried to subpaena FMJ's USADA records. Mayweather and Pacquiao settled the case shortly after.
    A story that has no legs whilst PAC is just now agreeing to testing how many years later since refusing ost vehemently.

    Funny how the tables have turned

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    • Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
      Why would that be allowed in a case about slander related to what Floyd said about Pacquiao. What Floyd said about Manny and what he actually knew about Manny are the only relevant things~

      If Floyd shot steroids in his ass in front of the court that would have nothing to do with this case~ thus not matter to the outcome.
      I come from a family that has many lawyers in it and in a civil case both parties are open books in the discovery process. If Pac's legal team wanted to make the argument that Floyd was making these accusations to cover up the fact that he was in fact a PED user then Floyd would be required to open up those files. Its entirely possible that this was the case and is what lead to the settlement. The fact that it came about so quickly after the Cotto fight leads me to believe Mayweathers legal team was willing to do just about anything to not have this case heard in open court.

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      • Originally posted by ColWallace View Post
        Read the Thomas Hauser PED stories where he timelines events in this matter. Basically a strong rumour Floyd had failed three doping tests went around the boxing industry. Manny's legal team got wind of it and tried to subpaena FMJ's USADA records. Mayweather and Pacquiao settled the case shortly after.
        That has nothing to do with that case though and wouldn't have been allowed, this case got settled because there was a judgment about Floyd paying Manny's legal fees for some stuff a couple hundred grand.

        It got settled because of money and it was cheaper for Floyd to apologize and pay his lawyer than pay for bother their lawyers.

        Floyd's failed tests would have no bearing on if he slandered Manny or not? If not they wouldn't be allowed.

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        • And if Floyd is able to use PEDs according to the article, why then is he still scared to fight Pacman? He's basically saying he's the only one who can juice, while his opponent can't.

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          • Originally posted by QballLobo View Post
            I come from a family that has many lawyers in it and in a civil case both parties are open books in the discovery process. If Pac's legal team wanted to make the argument that Floyd was making these accusations to cover up the fact that he was in fact a PED user then Floyd would be required to open up those files. Its entirely possible that this was the case and is what lead to the settlement. The fact that it came about so quickly after the Cotto fight leads me to believe Mayweathers legal team was willing to do just about anything to not have this case heard in open court.
            If you come from a family of lawyers you know you always get rid of litigation the easiest way possible.

            That has nothing to do with the case, sure Manny's team can fish but that doesn't mean it is allowed in open court.

            Floyd had a real judgement go against him in terms of paying lawyers for Manny, so him getting out of paying hundreds of thousands in legal fees is a more plausible reason.

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            • Originally posted by ColWallace View Post
              We now know the settlement happened because Pacquiao's legal team tried to access Mayweather's USADA records.
              it was actually floyd's lawyers who tried to access pac's records first so pac's lawyers responded with having the same thing for floyd.

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              • Manny's records would be equally non relevant because Floyd would not have had access to that information beforehand and there is no need to prove his claims true although that would be helpful.

                Fishing from Floyd's side~

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                • Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
                  If you come from a family of lawyers you know you always get rid of litigation the easiest way possible.

                  That has nothing to do with the case, sure Manny's team can fish but that doesn't mean it is allowed in open court.

                  Floyd had a real judgement go against him in terms of paying lawyers for Manny, so him getting out of paying hundreds of thousands in legal fees is a more plausible reason.
                  If Manny's lawyers wanted to make the case that Floyd was in fact the PED user then they are within their right to do so. Its a civil case, tax payers money is not being used so anything goes. If Pac wants to pay for the discovery the judge can issue an order to have those records brought to the trial. The burden of proof is very low and judges will allow both parties to present the case as they see fit. Floyd's drug test records not having anything to do with the allegations means nothing in civil court.
                  its a common used strategy for one side to attempt to embarrass the other side to force a favorable settlement. One thing is clear, Mayweather's team was determined to not have this case heard in a public civil trial. Whether or not it was PED's or something else, there was certainly something they did not want to be heard. It could have been as simple as Floyd was about to go to jail and didn't need any more bad press or they felt that Manny would get a favorable judgement.
                  I have to believe Pac's team having some type of dirt on Floyd may had something to do with it. Oscar was quick to apologize and have his name removed from the suit and Mayweather was quick to settle and usually that doesn't happen unless Pac's team had some type of leverage against them. Since part of the settlement was to keep the details quiet we will probably never know.

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                  • Originally posted by QballLobo View Post
                    If Manny's lawyers wanted to make the case that Floyd was in fact the PED user then they are within their right to do so. Its a civil case, tax payers money is not being used so anything goes. If Pac wants to pay for the discovery the judge can issue an order to have those records brought to the trial. The burden of proof is very low and judges will allow both parties to present the case as they see fit. Floyd's drug test records not having anything to do with the allegations means nothing in civil court.
                    its a common used strategy for one side to attempt to embarrass the other side to force a favorable settlement. One thing is clear, Mayweather's team was determined to not have this case heard in a public civil trial. Whether or not it was PED's or something else, there was certainly something they did not want to be heard. It could have been as simple as Floyd was about to go to jail and didn't need any more bad press or they felt that Manny would get a favorable judgement.
                    I have to believe Pac's team having some type of dirt on Floyd may had something to do with it. Oscar was quick to apologize and have his name removed from the suit and Mayweather was quick to settle and usually that doesn't happen unless Pac's team had some type of leverage against them. Since part of the settlement was to keep the details quiet we will probably never know.
                    That doesn't have to be the case at all, any lawyer will tell you to settle and if it is as easy as an apology you accept that. Manny's team didn't have to accept the settlement if they thought things would go great for them.

                    Floyd had the judgement go against him on legal fees and in the brief you see that both sides were paying their own fees, so that is much more likely the case than some crazy complicated theory. The cost benefit analysis started to work against him so it was time to just give up.

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