Andre Ward # 1 P4P.......

[-PBP-]

His entire management company should be fired. He should be all over our televisions.

J. Prince is his manager. If you follow Houston hip hop or even Floyd's career you know that getting away from that man could cost you. lol

[shade darkar]

totally disagree. he is a very good fighter, no question, but he isnt p4p number 1 in my opinion. he isnt better than mayweather, pacquiao or marquez. thats my top 3 anyway.

also, if you actually look at wards record, its very good, but its not as great as people make out.

chad dawson fight didnt prove much to me at least, should have been at light heavyweight.

carl froch fight was a comprehensive victory, but i have never rated froch that highly, defo a will over skill fighter and also very slow!

arthur abraham isnt that good either,very crude, not to mention he is a middleweight.

sakio bika, stay busy fight.

allan green, not a very good fighter imo.

mikkel kessler was a good win.

and then when you notice most of these fights were in his own back yard, its not great.

still got a way to go before i would consider him the best in boxing.

[ModernTalking]

totally disagree. he is a very good fighter, no question, but he isnt p4p number 1 in my opinion. he isnt better than mayweather, pacquiao or marquez. thats my top 3 anyway.

also, if you actually look at wards record, its very good, but its not as great as people make out.

chad dawson fight didnt prove much to me at least, should have been at light heavyweight.

carl froch fight was a comprehensive victory, but i have never rated froch that highly, defo a will over skill fighter and also very slow!

arthur abraham isnt that good either,very crude, not to mention he is a middleweight.

sakio bika, stay busy fight.

allan green, not a very good fighter imo.

mikkel kessler was a good win.

and then when you notice most of these fights were in his own back yard, its not great.

still got a way to go before i would consider him the best in boxing.

Ward is good but when you're beating guys your own size...that's not P4P material. PAC had to move up and Barerra, Marquez, and Morales. He then had move up and beat Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, and the welter. A small man beating big men, if PAC was the same size as these welter it's not even a question of can PAC beat them....PAC will kill them.

[T.Horton]

I still have Floyd and Manny at the top. Traditionally you don't change p4p kings until they've lost convincingly. Traditionally. I think Hopkins may have overtook Jones while he was on his run without Jones losing. But that's the only instance that I can think of.

[Rip Chudd]

I have him at #1. If Chavez wasn't so average I'd have Sergio at #2.

[T.Horton]

I have him at #1. If Chavez wasn't so average I'd have Sergio at #2.

friggin' German.

you probably have Henry Maske at number 3.

[SPREAD]

p4p Ranks resume wise


1. Pac, untill he loses

2. May, haven't done anything since he came back from retirement, he have to
earn the number 1 back by fighting and beating elite fighters (Pac, Martinez)

3. Ward, Made a great fighter (Dawson) look average at best

4. Martinez

Talking ****.

[SPREAD]

totally disagree. he is a very good fighter, no question, but he isnt p4p number 1 in my opinion. he isnt better than mayweather, pacquiao or marquez. thats my top 3 anyway.

also, if you actually look at wards record, its very good, but its not as great as people make out.

chad dawson fight didnt prove much to me at least, should have been at light heavyweight.

carl froch fight was a comprehensive victory, but i have never rated froch that highly, defo a will over skill fighter and also very slow!

arthur abraham isnt that good either,very crude, not to mention he is a middleweight.

sakio bika, stay busy fight.

allan green, not a very good fighter imo.

mikkel kessler was a good win.

and then when you notice most of these fights were in his own back yard, its not great.

still got a way to go before i would consider him the best in boxing.

Great post 100% agree.

[Fasttimes]

Mayweather
Marquez
Martinez
Ward
Pacquiao

[hookoutofhell]

floyd just got the decision over a bigger opponent who was fighting in his natural weight class (i.e. Cotto).

now if ward had done the same thing over dawson then you could put him up at no.1

for now floyd is numero uno