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Roach is very very ****y and very very overrated. When you mix the two, you get haters
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I don't really place much blame on roach for the failures of Amir Khan and Jorge Linares.
If I was a fighter going on trainer shopping, the first thing I would do is look at all the available trainers' star pupils or frankensteins.
In the case of roach, he is known for his training of manny. It's almost like the thought of using an aggressive high volume puncher style isn't ideal if you have durability issues didn't occur for Amir and Jorge.
Instead of actually finding the trainer best suited for their attributes, they just saw the LV logo and bought.Comment
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roach had khan, pacquiao, chavez jr, linares, rodella, mcewan all lose in like 12 months and he's supposed to be a good coach? is the guy training them to make sure they lose or something and then betting against them to get the cash.. i mean whats going on, this guy needs to get out of the damn sport and stop ruining fighters careers..Comment
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Because they're delusional enough into thinking that an elite trainer will suddenly turn them into Manny Pacquiaos, disregarding the physical capabilities of their bodies and inherent fighting styles based on their weight classes and current opposition.
I have nothing against Freddie, but his star fighters seem to have difficulties making adjustments mid-fight. Khan, JCC Jr, and arguably Pacman always fight the same, identical fight.Comment
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I think Roach is a great trainer..
Not much you can do if your fighter doesnt listen to you in the fight..
Or if your fatigued, chinny, or just a *****..
Khan and Chavez dont like being told what to do.. They need there horns to be blown.
Its the truth.. Freddy has great gameplans if his fighters listen..
khan and chavez are pampered and have been all their careers.. they need someone to set them straight..Comment
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He is a good trainer, it's just because the media make so much of him that people pay more attention to him and his flaws. A trainer can only do so much, it's Khan who decided to trade rather than hold, it#s Chavez who decided to not train as hard as he could etc.Comment
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nah, roach used to be good back in the day but he's lost it now, his illness turned him into an incompetent zombie.. he's about as useful a trainer as angelina jolie.. and his gameplans are terrible too.. he needs to quit before he ruins every fighter he comes in contact withComment
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1) Due to his association with Pac.
2) He talks sh-t about other fighters, including Floyd
3) He used to, and still does, get a lot of hype as a trainer.
What does this all mean?
Naazim "Hand Wrapping Observer Extraordinaire" Richardson > Freddie Roach.Comment
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I don't hate Roach at all, I do think he is a good trainer, but yes I think he is overrated. When I say overrated, I don't mean in simple trainer terms, but to get TOY so many times, really? Over one fighter who was an anomaly? Roach gets more credit than he deserves for 2 reasons:
1. He has Parkinson's disease.
2. He trains Pacquiao.
His disability/disease and the global fame of Pacquiao contribute to him winning FOY. He is a purely offensive trainer, how many of his fighters have good defense and inside fighting skills? How many can cutoff the ring and set traps? Pac, Khan, Jr. are just come forward offensive fighters. Khan, Linares and Pac already had their abilities when they found Roach, he just helped some. How many other fighters has Roach actually developed honestly? The only fighters he really took and develope some were Kayode and Jr. Kayode is still total garbage and Jr. is still somewhat one-dimensional. If you took Pac away, much of the world would not even know who Roach was. To his defense, maybe his disease is what is limiting him, which is very possible.Comment
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