Freddie Roach - Why so much hate?

[yoz]

Sure, he's an offensive trainer, but I find it a little strange that he's been blamed for the Khan and Chavez Jr losses.


1) In the corner before Amir's first knockdown, Roach clearly tells his fighter to throw 2-3 punches, then get out. That was the game plan: take Garcia deep and get a late KO/stoppage or score a wide UD. He can hardly be blamed for Khan's inability to take a punch or, indeed, his decision to throw 4-5-6 punches at a time against a counter-puncher.

2) Chavez Jr. Again, Roach is giving his fighter clear instructions from round 4 onwards about letting his hands go. Chavez refuses, and seemingly ignores his trainer's advice. Round 10 - Roach again tells his fighter to throw punches in bunches, but his advice is again ignored.


Not a huge fan of the guy, but he seems to get a lot of stick in NSB.

[GrandpaBernard]

Fighters who suck are simply going to suck

[sicko]

Uh...BECAUSE HE IS OVERRATED!

People been saying this for years on this forum but of course the Pacquiao fans and Khan fans and the other fighters he trained came to his Defense, NOT BECAUSE he truly was a "GREAT TRAINER" but more so because he was the Trainer of their favorite fighter...what is Freddie Roach even known for as a TRAINER? For Example Emmanuel Steward is known for making his fighters USE THE JAB as well as size/reach advantage...but what is Roach known for?

[Evol]

Roach trains PAC, the PAC haters hates manny therefore roach automatically sucks!

[Evol]

LoL @ these keyboard know it all on here. Here's a quick reminder, roach owns his own gym which is doing great and is training more than 1 pro boxer. Yet these keyboard know it all feel that roach is overrated?? Well go show us how it's done boyeeeeeee!! Go train someone and when ya win a title then u can come back on here and say roach is overrated.

[John Barron]

roach is a good trainer but a lot of people love to toot his horn. i think he's incredibly one dimensional as a trainer just like a lot of trainers but he's a smart matchmaker. nothing spectacular or legendary about him. if you want to sharpen your offense he's a a guy to go to. doubt he'll teach you anything else. seems that way with a lot of his fighters.

[Gino Ros]

Fighters who suck are simply going to suck

Then why pay for an elite trainer?

[Gino Ros]

What does Pacquiao do substantially better today than 8 years ago?

[pacmanis1]

The reason people say he sucks or is overrated is because a few years ago he was considered a trainer that could make anyone a champion. He's a good trainer but he isn't the king maker that people thought a few years ago.

[k1llu]

roach fighters don't have a plan b ones they've been figured out they look lost. Khan last fight his whole game plan was a disaster.