Have we seen the last of Ruiz & Stone?

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  • TheEvilSaint
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    #11
    Originally posted by Dirt E Gomez
    I didn't say they'd be big ones. However, a rematch in Germany would actually probably be pretty profitable. Or if marketed by king correctly in the states it might draw some attention. True boxing fans know better, but not the casual fan of sports.
    even boxing fans, hardcore, casual, or otherwise really dont like to pay to see ruiz. ruiz will have to rely on king to produce the money cuz ruiz cant draw for ****.

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    • whdempsey
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      #12
      Originally posted by Dirt E Gomez
      As I stated in a similar thread, Ruiz has a couple of years left in him, or at least a couple of fights. He can get some decent paydays fighting other big contendors without belts or at least getting a rematch against Valuev.
      Fight? When did Ruiz fight? I only ever saw him trying to draw other fellows into his loving embrace. I swear, I would have hit him in the face too, if I'd been in their situation. That doesn't mean Ruiz can fight though. He has deserved to lose every port-Tua fight by DQ.

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      • Dirt E Gomez
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        #13
        Originally posted by TheEvilSaint
        even boxing fans, hardcore, casual, or otherwise really dont like to pay to see ruiz. ruiz will have to rely on king to produce the money cuz ruiz cant draw for ****.
        Casual fans of sports and boxing hardly know who Ruiz is. Poll 100 random people you see on a street and at most 5 will know who he is... And if they do know who he is it'll probably be strictly from his most recent fight.

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        • DiegoFuego
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          #14
          Originally posted by AREALFIGHTER
          Norm stone wasnt protesting **** his ****** ADD ass has no control over his mind or emotions Ruiz would have been better without him why don king did not force ruiz to get rid of ****en ****** I will never know ruiz if ruiz would have had a real triner and not a clown in his ear he could have done even better. Not to back ruiz but stone is a ****ing mutant
          best statement ever. I'm not making fun of you or anything, that just sounded so funny I'm crackin up over here

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          • DiegoFuego
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            #15
            do you all think Stone thinks he's the WBA champ?

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            • czars_salad
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              #16
              junk ruiz! stone should be hailed! lol! i'd like to see more of stone in action! LOL

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              • mECHsLAVE
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                #17
                Ruiz is no draw without a belt, that's why Don has gone to great efforts to keep him his belt. Now Don has decided to trade Ruiz out for Valuev (the decision to trade for Valuev was made as soon as the fight was proposed), and Valuev would have won a decision even if he didn't win. I thought it was 116-112 Valuev. Ruiz just had no answer for the jab, really.

                Ruiz may make one more farewell fight, but I think it's more likely that'll he'll just retire if he doesn't get the rematch.

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                • Reezy
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                  #18
                  stone is a moron

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                  • Leo Pradun
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                    #19
                    ruiz is finally done....

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                    • Shot
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by mECHsLAVE
                      Ruiz is no draw without a belt, that's why Don has gone to great efforts to keep him his belt. Now Don has decided to trade Ruiz out for Valuev (the decision to trade for Valuev was made as soon as the fight was proposed), and Valuev would have won a decision even if he didn't win. I thought it was 116-112 Valuev. Ruiz just had no answer for the jab, really.

                      Ruiz may make one more farewell fight, but I think it's more likely that'll he'll just retire if he doesn't get the rematch.
                      I couldn't agree more. Ruiz was traded for Valuev. I don't believe in a rematch since King now has a 4 fight option on Valuev and that is worth more than the rest of Ruiz career even if Valuev only manages to defend the title once or twice. Ruiz will at most be used to try to take out non Don King contenders is my guess.

                      So to note this was not another German robbery (if you should think it was so) but then at least one in cooperation with Don King.

                      P.S. I had 114-114 but several rounds were close so it could have gone either way.

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