Comments Thread For: J. Vargas Discusses Bradley, Mayweather and Pacquiao

[Carlos Alberto]

Well you just reiterated everything I said concerning his power, speed and defense. He's not going to wow you with anything. He has a few knockouts that made him seem like a power puncher, but really isn't that type of puncher. He's an accumulative puncher and that's where most of his knockouts come from. I agree he has been learning on the job, he still has learning too do, but all in all he's still an ordinary fighter. How many A level fighters has be fought? Mosley can't be considered A level, he's an A level name and a resume builder but he wasn't the same fighter. Cintron is a B level talent with a noticeable name, but again he's seen better days and he really didn't seem to want to fight that night. I'm impressed with Canelo's work rate, but I'm curious to see how he reacts to a true puncher who won't stop coming. So far he's faced only two fighters who are considered punchers and that's Mosley and Cintron. Cintron has zero knockouts at 154 and didn't look at that strong either except for the fight with Angulo, but Angulo was sick that fight. Mosley has had knockouts at 154 but that was against Mayorga and an old *ss Fernando Vargas.

Agreed with everything you said... But again, as an up-and-comer, he did beat some solid opposition (not world beaters but solid nonetheless; especially considering Saul was only 18 - 19 years old). That list includes Larry Mosley (standout US amateur), Michel Rosado, and Luciano Cuello.

[Hougigo]

Josesito beat Jesse Vargas last sept. I felt that it was fairly obvious. and Pac isn't "close to forty" at all - especially in boxing years.

Came on stronger in the mid to later rounds..... IMO, he could have made it more definitive by being more active in the later rounds because Vargas was just covering up