"Andre Ward's resume is better than Joe Calzaghe's"

[RichCCFC]

Ward's best wins:
Kessler
Dawson (Drained)
Froch (Ward)
Abraham (Ward)
Bika
Miranda
Green

(Bika,Miranda,Green non champions)

Calzaghe's best wins:
Kessler (better version) (Calzaghe)
Hopkins (2008) (Calzaghe)
Eubank
Lacy
Bika (better version) (Calzaghe)
Brewer (Calzaghe)
Mitchell (Calzaghe)
Jones
Reid
Woodhall

(All champions besides Bika)

Will he end up with a better resume? Probably!

But don't be ****ing dumb, he's only fought names in the past 3 years and don't get it twisted, Dawson drained as ****.

[BoxingGenius27]

Lol at Calzaghe's resume.

Why do you think Calzaghe was the underdog against Jeff Lacy?

Because before the Lacy fight, Calzaghe fought no one of note, that's why.

So essentially, Calzaghe's only good fights were Lacy, Kessler and Hopkins.

Please don't count Jones, Manfredo or Bika.

[SirTomJones]

Because before the Lacy fight, Calzaghe fought no one of note, that's why.

Good old fashioned American hype, that's why.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Ward > Calzaghe


In skills and resume.

[4Corners]

Ward's best wins are Dawson, Froch, Abraham, Bika, and Kessler.

Calzaghe's best wins are Hopkins, Kessler, Lacy, and Bika.

Ward's wins over Froch and Kessler were big, as was his win over Dawson. It would have been greater had Ward gone up in weight to fight Dawson though, that's a fact. Abraham and Bika were solid wins over other guys in the Top 10.

Ward also has other "alright" wins over Miranda and Green.

Calzaghe's wins over Hopkins and Kessler were big wins, though his win over Hopkins was questionable. Lacy was a big win and he gets credit for that as a solid win, as he does with Bika to me.

Joe also had "alright" wins over Reid, Brewer, Woodhall, and Eubank.

[BoxingGenius27]

Before Calzaghe finally stepped in competition against Lacy after fighting for 14 years, he was fighting:

Evans Ashira
Mario Veit
Kabary Salem
Mger Mkrtchyan
Tocker Pudwill
Will McIntyre

So on and so forth lol

[110110110]

The kessler vs Calzaghe fight was a very competitive fight and mikkel where landing bombs into the final round.
Joe won yes but is was not in any way of from a shootout

Ward beat up kessler

[BoxingGenius27]

Ward's best wins are Dawson, Froch, Abraham, Bika, and Kessler.

Calzaghe's best wins are Hopkins, Kessler, Lacy, and Bika.

Ward's wins over Froch and Kessler were big, as was his win over Dawson. It would have been greater had Ward gone up in weight to fight Dawson though, that's a fact. Abraham and Bika were solid wins over other guys in the Top 10.

Ward also has other "alright" wins over Miranda and Green.

Calzaghe's wins over Hopkins and Kessler were big wins, though his win over Hopkins was questionable. Lacy was a big win and he gets credit for that as a solid win, as he does with Bika to me.

Joe also had "alright" wins over Reid, Brewer, Woodhall, and Eubank.

I'm sorry, but who did Bika beat before he fought Calzaghe? If I remember correctly, he lost to Sam Solliman before fighting Joe.

Bika's not a bad fighter, but when we're trying to compare someone's resume with the ATG's and make an argument for them as one of the best/elite of all time, mentioning Sakio Bika won't help the case.

[Pullcounter]

Ward's best wins:
Kessler
Dawson (Drained)
Froch (Ward)
Abraham (Ward)
Bika
Miranda
Green

(Bika,Miranda,Green non champions)

Calzaghe's best wins:
Kessler (better version) (Calzaghe)
Hopkins (2008) (Calzaghe)
Eubank
Lacy
Bika (better version) (Calzaghe)
Brewer (Calzaghe)
Mitchell (Calzaghe)
Jones
Reid
Woodhall

(All champions besides Bika)

Will he end up with a better resume? Probably!

But don't be ****ing dumb, he's only fought names in the past 3 years and don't get it twisted, Dawson drained as ****.

derp!!!

*****... froch's resume is better than Cokezaghe's... hell, arthur abraham's resume is better

[zuldo]

Andre ward is number 2 in my p4p list after maywheather......paquiao is number 4 after chavez-martinez winner


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