Was it the punch or the weight?

[V.WEBB]

It was Joe Cortez :|

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Being hit harder isnt as important as where youre hit, Pascal may ineed have hit Dawson harder, but not as perfectly placed as Wards. He was on rubber legs when that shot hit.

Every punch is different, has different effects.

Ward does the same thing at 175.

He should fight him there then , its easy to say does the same thing but you better believe weight means alot and unless they rematch at the other guys weight you will never know , to think its not possible to be weakened to where you dont take a shot you normally would is quite ignorant , Ward is NOT a big puncher he was hurting Chad with everything that touched him .

Great win by Andre he did all he was supposed to , Ive got no doubts at all Chad dropping weight helped him shine .

[kiaba360]

He should fight him there then , its easy to say does the same thing but you better believe weight means alot and unless they rematch at the other guys weight you will never know , to think its not possible to be weakened to where you dont take a shot you normally would is quite ignorant , Ward is NOT a big puncher he was hurting Chad with everything that touched him .

Great win by Andre he did all he was supposed to , Ive got no doubts at all Chad dropping weight helped him shine .

If he can't be sure, how can you be sure? I feel that the weight had a factor on his punch resistance, but not so much on his work-rate/endurance/stamina. He fought how I thought he would fight and made the same errors I thought he would make. He tried to box behind the jab, and slowly but surely, he began to mentally check-out of the fight while Ward was busy trying to win rounds. This is becoming his M.O, similar to the way Judah is known to break down from pressure or the way Khan starts off fast, but then his work-rate tapers off. Dawson's passiveness and relaxed nature is being used against him, it's a flaw that has become a notable part of his style and something that his opponents can look at and build their game-plans around.

I really hope Dawson can get a good win @175 so it'll make sense to have this rematch. If he has another iffy performance against Cloud or Pascal, then his reputation is in jeopardy.

[jtiger777]

lol sure. What SMW's has he ever hurt again? Even Kessler who wasn't able to see his right hands coming and wouldn't even react to them was eating flush right hands all night long without being remotely phased.

getting hit on the button is exactly that!!!! it doesnt take a big puncher to hurt u when its on the button grow up man

[kiaba360]

getting hit on the button is exactly that!!!! it doesnt take a big puncher to hurt u when its on the button grow up man

Ward even froze Froch multiple times, and he's known for being able to absorb punishment.

[noStylez]

The weight, stopped throwing punches in round 2. People giving Dawson crap but he made no excuses after the fight gave his props to Wards and made no issue of the weight.

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If he can't be sure, how can you be sure? I feel that the weight had a factor on his punch resistance, but not so much on his work-rate/endurance/stamina. He fought how I thought he would fight and made the same errors I thought he would make. He tried to box behind the jab, and slowly but surely, he began to mentally check-out of the fight while Ward was busy trying to win rounds. This is becoming his M.O, similar to the way Judah is known to break down from pressure or the way Khan starts off fast, but then his work-rate tapers off. Dawson's passiveness and relaxed nature is being used against him, it's a flaw that has become a notable part of his style and something that his opponents can look at and build their game-plans around.

I really hope Dawson can get a good win @175 so it'll make sense to have this rematch. If he has another iffy performance against Cloud or Pascal, then his reputation is in jeopardy.

I didnt say he couldnt do it , I said in order to prove it he would need to fight him at 175 , what " I am saying " is weight shedding can and will effect elite athletes in a negative way , they never know how its going to effect them until the contest , to think it had no effect on Chad is gullible Andre is NOT that big of a puncher , how much so is just argue fodder , Im not a fan of either but like both , I see this as just another case in point of a fighter performing at a lowering CW and looking awful , yet the fighters going up in weight look good , got to be a message in that !

[goblin213]

Pfftt weak punching Eric Harding put Chad on his ass by a ***n jab.

[kiaba360]

I didnt say he couldnt do it , I said in order to prove it he would need to fight him at 175 , what " I am saying " is weight shedding can and will effect elite athletes in a negative way , they never know how its going to effect them until the contest , to think it had no effect on Chad is gullible Andre is NOT that big of a puncher , how much so is just argue fodder , Im not a fan of either but like both , I see this as just another case in point of a fighter performing at a lowering CW and looking awful , yet the fighters going up in weight look good , got to be a message in that !

Which is why this fight must happen again down the line. Ward still has something left to prove.

[Drunken Cat]

You must be ****** if you think that Dawson wasn't affected by the weight.

No, it is you who must be ******, if you can't comprehend a short typed message. I didn't say a word about weight.