How Great Was Sugar Ray Robinson?

**Bozo_no no** · 12-16-2005, 09:37 PM

VERY great.

**JUYJUY** · 12-16-2005, 09:39 PM

Here are some clips from his Golden Gloves fights and his Middleweight fights
click here: http://www.**********.com/?d=ELD3VX9A

His prime was at 147, but we have zero footage of that unfortunately.

I can make a strong case for Joe Gans, Sam Langford and Henry Armstrong as the greatest of all-time.. Joe Walcott also comes into the equation (Fleischer to the day he died insisted that Walcott was the best welterweight he'd ever seen). I personally think Robinson is over-rated (he was a great, great fighter and a dead cert top five lb4lb all-time for me.. but he is over-rated in my opinion).

**oldgringo** · 12-16-2005, 09:40 PM

Unbelievable. Dude could knock you out with a left hand while backing up on his right heel.

Perfect fighting machine at 147. Only fighter who could have ever beaten him at that weight was Tommy HEanrs *if hearns would have had a chin like marvin hagler*

**Bozo_no no** · 12-16-2005, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by JUYJUY

I can make a strong case for Joe Gans, Sam Langford, Henry Armstrong and Joe Walcott as the greatest of all-time. I personally think Robinson is over-rated (he was a great, great fighter and a dead cert top five lb4lb all-time for me.. but he is over-rated in my opinion).

Your outright bias renders your opinion meaningless.

Don't listen to this guy, Robinson was the Greatest.

**Truth** · 12-16-2005, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by JUYJUY

Here are some clips from his Golden Gloves fights and his Middleweight fights
click here: http://www.**********.com/?d=ELD3VX9A

His prime was at 147, but we have zero footage of that unfortunately.

I can make a strong case for Joe Gans, Sam Langford, Henry Armstrong and Joe Walcott as the greatest of all-time. I personally think Robinson is over-rated (he was a great, great fighter and a dead cert top five lb4lb all-time for me.. but he is over-rated in my opinion).

Thanks JuyJuy.

**oldgringo** · 12-16-2005, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by JUYJUY

Here are some clips from his Golden Gloves fights and his Middleweight fights
click here: http://www.**********.com/?d=ELD3VX9A

His prime was at 147, but we have zero footage of that unfortunately.

I can make a strong case for Joe Gans, Sam Langford and Henry Armstrong as the greatest of all-time.. Joe Walcott also comes into the equation (Fleischer to the day he died insisted that Walcott was the best welterweight he'd ever seen). I personally think Robinson is over-rated (he was a great, great fighter and a dead cert top five lb4lb all-time for me.. but he is over-rated in my opinion).

Explain how Joe Walcott was better than Ray Rob...PLEASE humor me.

**JUYJUY** · 12-16-2005, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by oldgringo

Explain how Joe Walcott was better than Ray Rob...PLEASE humor me.

How many Robinson fights have you seen at 147? Zero. Fleischer may be the only (or one of the only) men to ever see both Walcott and Robinson fight at 147, and he insisted that Walcott was the best he'd ever seen at 147.

**Truth** · 12-16-2005, 09:44 PM

I apologize to the mods, I should have posted this in the boxing history section. My bad...

**Bozo_no no** · 12-16-2005, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by JUYJUY

How many Robinson fights have you seen at 147? Zero. Fleischer may be the only (or one of the only) men to ever see both Walcott and Robinson fight at 147, and he insisted that Walcott was the best he'd ever seen at 147.

That's brillant.

"I heard Fleischer say..."

Please.

And by the way, how many Joe Gans and Sam Langford fights have YOU seen?

How Great Was Sugar Ray Robinson?