Originally posted by Dkknight
Can Gatti Hack it at the top?
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Gatti outboxed Tracy Harris Patterson TWICE, and in the process surprising many (including Patterson in the first fight) that the puncher Gatti could box.
Both Ivan Robinson fights were close; the first a SD the second would have been scored a draw would there been no point deduction for Gatti. Ivan was the better boxer in both, but Gatti being "out boxed", no (if rememder it correctly the second fight Gatti lost his steam in the last part of the fight).Comment
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Tszyu is in my book at the very top of the light welterweight division. The sharp and hungry Tszyu we seen at the last fight against Mitchell will probably win against Gatti.
Gatti boxing will give Kostya the opportunity to land the straight right from long distance, I think Tszyu 's best weapon. So Gatti should fight half distance and giving Tszyu angles (and punishing Tszyu's body!).
With Gatti's heart there is ALWAYS the possibility (Tszyu defense mostly consist of his offense or leaning backwards).
A fight I definitely want to see!!
And probably will not be made
(and that is not because the fighters do not want it!)Last edited by KJ; 01-07-2005, 03:15 AM.Comment
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i meant no disrespect to gerald with my "guys like" comment. i was at that fight and have sent a donation to help his medical bills (i sent the price of my ticket).Originally posted by pinkpantherI think you do rather a diservice to Nigel Benn there I have to say, I understand the point you are trying to make in terms of lack of technical boxing ability at the very highest level but Benn had a bigger heart, tougher chin and more pop in either hand than Gatti, hence he was at the top of his division and did mix it with the best. You certainly do a diservice to G-Man with your "guys like" comment, he was one of the best boxers pound for pound in the world coming into the fight with Benn.
Gatti has the ability at 140 to go 12 with the likes of Mayweather and Mitchell because they don't really ****, he would struggle against Tyzsu, Hatton and Cotto. Below them Gatti is probably on a level with Harris and could beat the likes of Chop Chop and Leija, Spad etc.Comment
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Gatti is a true warrior of boxing but I dont believe in his actual skill. The guy is good, dont get me wrong, but he aint as good as some of you praise him. He really struggled to beat Branco. And that is one of his recent fights. Also, even though he possess good power in both of his hand its not the power of Zoo. Most of the KO were really from consistent work and not flush like Zoo's. Even though I dont believe he can beat Kostya, I would give him a good chance against PBF.PBF still got an edge with his skill superiority but quiet often good swarmer(pressure fighter) beats good boxer. He only needs to learn to cut off the ring properly and his chances to beat PBF will be really good.Comment
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Where does everyone rate Gatti at 140?
I rate him about 6/7.
Below is how Boxrec rate 140, they use a point system without bias to any fighter.
World Light Welterweight Ratings
Name
1 Kostya Tszyu
2 Floyd Mayweather Jr.
3 Ricky Hatton
4 Miguel Angel Cotto
5 Vivian Harris
6 Sharmba Mitchell
7 Arturo GattiLast edited by - Evil -; 01-07-2005, 01:31 PM.Comment
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You must be new to boxing if you believe boxrec's rankings. Pick up an issue of Ring Magazine and you'll konw what the rankings really are.Originally posted by MidasWhere does everyone rate Gatti at 140?
I rate him about 6/7.
Below is how Boxrec rate 140, they use a point system without bias to any fighter.
World Light Welterweight Ratings
Name
1 Kostya Tszyu
2 Floyd Mayweather Jr.
3 Ricky Hatton
4 Miguel Angel Cotto
5 Vivian Harris
6 Sharmba Mitchell
7 Arturo GattiComment
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New to boxing, LMAOOriginally posted by zooYou must be new to boxing if you believe boxrec's rankings. Pick up an issue of Ring Magazine and you'll konw what the rankings really are.
The ring is an American magazine so it is bias to the American boxing scene, all the other magazines around the world are bias towards there own fighters.
All the belts are bias toward certain fighters. I picked Boxrec because its an unbias rating system, not everyone will agree with it but thats the same with any ratings.
I posted the rating for users to make quick reference too, i dont exactly agree with it myself.Comment
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A number ranking system is biased too, because it ranks unbeaten fighters way too high, look how high boxrec ranks Valuev, it is ridiculous.Originally posted by MidasNew to boxing, LMAO
The ring is an American magazine so it is bias to the American boxing scene, all the other magazines around the world are bias towards there own fighters.
All the belts are bias toward certain fighters. I picked Boxrec because its an unbias rating system, not everyone will agree with it but thats the same with any ratings.
I posted the rating for users to make quick reference too, i dont exactly agree with it myself.Comment
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