Trinidad is he a legitimet middleweight or not?

[brickhouse187]

I believe Trinidad has successfully carried his power from weight to weight while still looking good in the ring. I believe he is a good middleweight.

[Mr. Ryan]

I believe that Trinidad isn't a legitimate middleweight, simply because he never really fought as a middleweight. He always fought at 156 when he fought middleweights. He looked small compared to Hopkins. The only 3 guys hes beaten at middleweight were Mayorga, Joppy, and that French guy. All of them were small.

[IwatchBoxing]

I believe that Trinidad isn't a legitimate middleweight, simply because he never really fought as a middleweight. He always fought at 156 when he fought middleweights. He looked small compared to Hopkins. The only 3 guys hes beaten at middleweight were Mayorga, Joppy, and that French guy. All of them were small.

Joppy was the WBA Middleweight Title holder at the time.Thats pretty good for a middleweight.
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=004995

[Mr. Ryan]

Joppy was the WBA Middleweight Title holder at the time.Thats pretty good for a middleweight.
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=004995

But he was a small middleweight. On top of that, he was an average fighter, not an elite fighter. If he's having life and death struggles with Julio Cesar Green, maybe getting in there with Trinidad isn't smart.

[cple]

Yeah, in the grand scheme of things, Joppy is an average middleweight. But once you look at the division, you'll notice that it also ******/sucks. When he fought Trinidad, Joppy was regarded as the second best middleweight around, or at least one of the better ones. Trinidad dismantled him. Hopkins is so far ahead of the division that it's simply ridiculous.

In today's middleweight picture, if you put a fighter of Trinidad's calibre and skill in there, he's a contender.

[IwatchBoxing]

Yeah, in the grand scheme of things, Joppy is an average middleweight. But once you look at the division, you'll notice that it also ******/sucks. When he fought Trinidad, Joppy was regarded as the second best middleweight around, or at least one of the better ones. Trinidad dismantled him. Hopkins is so far ahead of the division that it's simply ridiculous.

In today's middleweight picture, if you put a fighter of Trinidad's calibre and skill in there, he's a contender.

Who is so good in Middleweight today that is so much better than Joppys time?

[Mr. Ryan]

Yeah, in the grand scheme of things, Joppy is an average middleweight. But once you look at the division, you'll notice that it also ******/sucks. When he fought Trinidad, Joppy was regarded as the second best middleweight around, or at least one of the better ones. Trinidad dismantled him. Hopkins is so far ahead of the division that it's simply ridiculous.

In today's middleweight picture, if you put a fighter of Trinidad's calibre and skill in there, he's a contender.

Hopkins really is so far ahead of the pack at 160. You know, a bunch of bums surrounding an average fighter make the average fighter look great.

[jack_the_rippuh]

So you're saying if the 160lb. division had the same amount of stars as the 140lb. has that Hopkins wouldn't be undisputed champ?

[Sir_Jose]

Of course he is a legit Middleweight he's had 4 fights and has looked great in 3. Hopkins is just a better fighter.

[borikua]

Of course he is a middleweight, when he was "retired" he was around 180...At least when he fought Nard he didn't request Nard not to weight more than 156 like DLH did... He can even go up to 168 IMO...