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I think Lesnar has a chance to ko Wlad.
There, I said it.
Wlad is the only heavy in the world Lesnar has a chance to brutally ko.
There, I said it.
Wlad is the only heavy in the world Lesnar has a chance to brutally ko.
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I doubt it. But, with how terrible most of the fighters are aside from Wlad, Vitali, Haye, and a few others, I bet he could beat some of the Top 20 HW's rather easily once he got some boxing knowledge under his belt.
Tell me that if Brock Lesnar or any of those guys that were UFC HW champs, had some boxing training for awhile and were brought along right, that they couldn't beat some of those HW's in the Top 20 pretty easily.Comment
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You seriously don't think Lesnar, Velasquez, or Dos Santos, if only focusing on boxing and training as a boxer, couldn't beat some these fat f**k Top 20 HW's today???? Seriously????
I hate MMA/UFC, but those guys, if training as a boxer only, could beat some of these Top 20 HW's. Not the Klitschko's, Haye, Price, or any guys like that.
It's different sports, but UFC/MMA guys would do A LOT better in pro boxing than boxers would in MMA/UFC stuff. That's a given.Comment
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is poking someone in the eyes, dropping to your knees and biting him in the balls also fighting?
i know thats illegal in mma. but my point is in other forms of combat where it might be legal you can make the same argument that its still fighting, still most of us would consider it a ***** move. personally i consider it an equally big ***** move to take someone down on the ground.
sure fighting on the ground is still fighting, but if you were in a street fight the same thing applies to hair pulling and croth grabbing. the question is if its fighting with pride and dignity or a cowards way out of confrontation, imo its the later.Comment
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JDS, let alone Brock, would never be able to topple some of the top 20 HW prospects let alone top 20 fat guys. They'd never be able to charge and rush like they do in MMA, they have no concept of understanding angles. The other thing is JDS only has boxing level jabs and straights with some basic head movement. His uppercuts and body blows, while being good in his own sport, are limp compared to even amateur heavyweights. Brock has zero striking ability - none. The guy would be utterly clueless.
For the best available look at an MMA fighter with decent boxing (for their own sport) who crossed over check out Melvin Guillard who got knocked out cold against a 4-0 forty year old.
Also if you think MMA fighters would do better in boxing than the other way round you have no understanding of the technicalities of boxing. Either you should give up now or go watch a few episodes of Hajime No Ippo to increase your knowledge 100%Comment
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JDS is an awful boxer. He has a great time VS MMA guys simply because they are too easy to hit. Boxing is an art where you must literally excel in one area, where as in MMA, you have different styles that can overcome another, and you can work on to counter your weaknesses. In boxing, if you can't box, it's game over. In MMA, if you can't 'strike' you can wrestle, use BJJ, Muay Thai kicks etc...Comment
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Personally I have always thought that a fairly short quick middleweight would have a decent chance of taking out a guy like Lesnar in an MMA match. Lesnar is what 6'4"? It's going to be hard for him to shoot under a 5'10" Boxer without getting clocked. The ability to shoot beneath the depth at which a Boxer can throw a meaningful punch is in my opinion a major key to how a grappler will usually defeat a Boxer.
I know there are a lot of MMA fans that think that an MMA fighter doesn't have to shoot under an elite Boxers' punching range to take him down, but there is a reason Randy Couture nearly leaped to the floor to grab James Toney's ankle when he shot in. I Remember when people were speculating that Randy might even kick or dirty Box. I find that MMA fans are far more confident about all the things that MMA fighters can do than MMA fighters themselves.Last edited by res; 08-18-2012, 09:08 AM.Comment
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Is Lesnar actually more famous that the Klitchkos? I didn't think so personally.What's your take on this report??? yes it's a bit old but the premise remains......what say you?
This past fourth of July weekend, I had the pleasure of getting away to one of the most beautiful chill beach towns in the great USA and that was none other than San Diego. I was posted up in the pimp suite of an upscale hotel resort located downtown right next to the bay.
I sent one of the members of my entourage to go get the pimp suite some snacks, drinks and to find out where they were showing the UFC 116: Lesnar vs Carwin fight.
When she returned back with completing all the errands I sent her out for, she had said everyone was talking about the UFC fight every where that she went. From the hotel lobby to the drug store to the bay front walkway, everyone was excited and anticipating the Brock Lesnar fight so much so that she did not even have to ask where to watch it for virtually any sports bar with an ounce of common sense was showing it on their HD screen.
This really got me thinking. It seems that the vast majority of people here in America know who the UFC heavyweight champion is, which is of course is Brock Lesnar, but I can guarantee you if you asked all these same people who is the current heavyweight champion of boxing, they would not have the foggiest clue.
So why is that? How could the original baddest man on the planet, which was always the heavyweight boxing champion now be overshadowed by the UFC heavyweight champion?
Well, there can be a number of reasons why. First off there is only one UFC heavyweight champion and that is of course Brock Lesnar. Currently in the sport of boxing there are numerous heavyweight champions. The most highly regarded title belts are the WBC, WBA, WBO, IBF and the Ring Magazine Lineal title. Unless there is one unified boxing champion there can be five different heavyweight boxing champions at one time.
Lesnar is American, in fact he looks like something straight out of a G.I. Joe comic book. You can not get more “red white and blue” than that. Boxing on the other hand, has three major heavyweight champions, two of which are Ukrainian brothers who are as big as David Hasslehoff is in Germany but can walk around the Beverly Center without TMZ harassing them unless a Hayden Panettiere stalker is near. The third is a sexy pretty boy from the UK. For decades, boxing has been dominated by the American Heavyweight champion as in Johnson, Louis, Marciano, Ali, Tyson, and Holyfield, but today again no American is within a fighting hope of bringing back the heavyweight boxing crown back to the USA.
Lesnar is from Minnesota and on top of that, he is from a farm town who is a former NCAA wrestling champion you can not get more all American and simple than that. The Klitschko brothers look like cousins of Ivan Drago who speak multiple foreign languages and who hold doctorate degrees from higher learning institutions hence their “Dr.” prefix nicknames. Most Americans tend to be turned off by elitists for most Americans are not elite they would much rather prefer the farm town wrestler to the Dr. elitist boxer brothers.
This past weekend being the fourth of July weekend, boxing promoters could have capitalized on the patriotism of their American clientele market but instead they would rather do fight cards on other random dates titled: Latin Fury or Pinoy Power. Instead of capitalizing on the fourth of July holiday, most boxing promoters tend to make their biggest pay per view fight cards catering to the loyal strong Mexican and Mexican American market on the Mexican Holidays such as Cinco De Mayo and the Mexican Independence Day on September 16.
Dana White, however, was the only promoter smart enough to capitalize on the fourth of July holiday with the biggest American UFC star ever, besides did you hear how many times the disclaimer kept informing us that UFC will now be available totally in Spanish?
By the way, when was the last big fourth of July boxing fight card? Was it when we had an American heavyweight champion? Showtime should be smart and have the final fight of the Super Six Classic Tournament take place next fourth of July if possible that would really be patriotic and a big plus to get the American public back on the program especially if American Andre Ward is in it.
So anyway, let's get to the real question here and that is, how would Brock Lesnar do against any of the current boxing heavyweight champions?
Well, seeing that the average American does not even know who any of the current boxing heavyweight champions are it would be safe to say that when asking them they would all pick Brock Lesnar to win hands down.
However, for those of you who are able to pick the three major boxing heavyweight champions out of a police line up what would your answer be?Comment
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