Joe Frazier training techniques

[OlympicGlory]

Ricky Hatton was in one. He came last in most too.

Surprisingly a skier was very strong being able to do a lot of reps on a bar, where your knees are up and you go up and down. A rugby player was the winner or 2nd.

Skiers have to be very strong and fit, which I never really knew. Rugby players are strong and fit which I can tell by watching it.

[OlympicGlory]

Oh and Frank Bruno also said boxing was his lifeline. He never was good at football (soccer) and not smart, but he could fight. He most likely be great at weight lifting too.

[Ray Corso]

Being an outstanding athlete is a huge benefit for a fighter to have. When you see coordination as to being aloof, or having coordination with step overs and pivets the fighter able to perform them is always an athlete. They're also capable of improving their power punch because they have the ability to perform balancing ala weight shifting better than a fellow without athelitc ability.
Most pro boxers are hand strong, meaning they don't usually train with heavy weights but have solid grips and are body strong not dead weight strong. I doubt Ali could bench 200lbs but he could knock out a 225lbs man within 8 rounds. Not sure if Ali could catch a football but if he could what a tight end he would have made back in his day, or today! Not sure how NOT being an athlete helps when your a pro fighter, it is a sport! Sometimes! Ray

[dibzvincent143]

boxing is of its own kind. hell donaire, floyd, sweetpea would lose to all other sports out there. floyd even emphasize that to mosley, he said "if its weightlifting maybe he wins, but this is boxing"

[GrandpaBernard]

I remember watching that episode of "The Superstars" years ago in a re-run. I recall having a conversation with a friend afterwards, noting how Frazier couldn't convincingly lift 160 lbs. At the time, I could easily press that kind of weight over my head. I was amazed that this ATG fighter couldn't do the same. Years later, as I learned more about weight-lifting, I came to understood that it's just as much about learned technique as it is about natural strength.

A guy like "Smokin'" Joe probably never lifted weights in his life, prior to "The Superstars." He and his trainers almost certainly subscribed to the old notion that lifting weights makes you "muscle-bound" and slow. You can see from Joe's form that he had no idea what to do in that lift. In actuality, Frazier probably possessed some good natural strength to raise the bar the way he did. What gets me is how naive Joe was not to at least prepare for the event. In fact, I can't help but smile when I watch those old shows and marvel at how far we've come in so many ways. Tomorrow's kids will someday laugh at how foolish we all seem today.

exactly what I was thinking. lifting weights is still taboo to many boxing gyms even today. a weight must have been alien to an old timer like Smokin

[BBFM]

Being athletic is a good quality but if you don't have the balls to back it up it don't mean ****. I see athletic guy's come and go most can't handle it and quit so it only gets you so far.

[Sweet Pea 50]

I'm not one for the whole decline of the U.S. prominence at Heavyweight is solely because of the explosion of the NBA or NFL. But I DO think some could, if they were steered into boxing's path at a young age, could have been successful H.W.'s. Make sense? If not, don't mind me, been drinking Modelos.

I think that Linebackers that play with broken bones, nerve damage, concussions, run into piles against men 100 pounds heavier then them at full speed, would have the mental fortitude to do fairly well in the ring.

My 2 cents.

[ksan]

Being athletic is a good quality but if you don't have the balls to back it up it don't mean ****. I see athletic guy's come and go most can't handle it and quit so it only gets you so far.

Exactly... It's not the athleticism of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog that counts.

Just ask Sergio Martinez about that, come September 15th

And look at Roberto Camarelle beating an athletic beast (but that's about what we can say about him) on the final of the last Olympics.

[Stebs]

The old guys here remember these star competitions back in the 70's, they were fun to watch but I never seen a boxer do anything in them. I remember Sugar Ray Robinson was in one of these shows and he was last in everything also from what I remember, Maybe someone can find that one and post it up.


I think Floyd Patterson was in one too, boxers were one dimensional back then, they didn't cross train like most do now so boxers of today would do better I think.

[elfag]

I'm not one for the whole decline of the U.S. prominence at Heavyweight is solely because of the explosion of the NBA or NFL. But I DO think some could, if they were steered into boxing's path at a young age, could have been successful H.W.'s. Make sense? If not, don't mind me, been drinking Modelos.

I think that Linebackers that play with broken bones, nerve damage, concussions, run into piles against men 100 pounds heavier then them at full speed, would have the mental fortitude to do fairly well in the ring.

My 2 cents.

Of course some of them could have been good. I mean even look at shaq with his part time attempts, he is pretty good, imagine if he had focused on that from age 12. There are no college scholarships for boxing like there are other sports. You can go to college for free, get out and be a bench warmer in the NBA or NFL and make six figures. You can play arena football and make more than what journeymen boxers make. So of course other sports have lured parents away from getting their kids into boxing.