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  • GRUSTLER
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    #151
    Originally posted by Cgarcia
    Biggest question is is your hero interested in the fight or not? Why is he always the one dumping all these roadblocks? Granting that the other side initially disagrees, there's no reason why you don't try and try again. Wtf is he? A child? If you want the fight you make it happen.
    Road blocks? What road blocks are you guys continue to talk about? In 2009 it was random blood testing that Pacquiao didn't want to do to make the fight. Who the hell would think that a professional, elite fighter on top of the sport of boxing would refuse to give blood randomly. I never understood how that was considered a road block. Pacquiao later says " I will take less money to fight Floyd". Then Floyd offers Pacquiao less money and then he gets offended by it? He is a jack ass. Arum don't want the fight until he is ready to make it and that is the reality of it and for people to stay saying other wise after all of these years and revelations are jack asses too.

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    • ADP02
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      #152
      Originally posted by Reloaded
      Jmm came up ****** , not a draining down lol do you even know the difference , it was the same weight JMM " that the best Manny has ever been : Roach said " looked ordinary against lol ,

      And Floyd after 2 yrs lay off comes back and fights the No2 P4P and makes him look like an amateur thats had 2 fights .

      If you cant see the differenced in Floyd schooling JMM , fighting ODH and Cotto at 154 , and see Manny in the same fights when they are 10 pounds ****** out ,,, kid go learn what boxing is about because you got no clue .

      Guns are in your cartoon world , in the grown up world bosses and promoters like Arum do put a intellectual gun to their workers heads , just like Cotto said he did .
      Again and again you fall for Floyd's lines .... " .... but but Marquez was #2 P4P" lol!!! He can easily fool you but the rest of us know what's going on.

      So for you it's fine when Floyd asks a guy to come up 2 fights from 3 divisions at 144lbs, which was already giving Floyd the big edge but then
      Floyd never intended to make 144 so he paid off to come in at 146? Right? Whatever Floyd does is OK, right?

      It was the first time Marquez went up to WW and everyone who saw him said he looked smaller and "looked" flabby against Floyd but for you, that is easy for an opponent to do, right? .... but to come down 1lb from your previous fight like Cotto vs Manny and who by the way NEVER COMPLAINED must have been drained and it must have been so so much more difficult than what Marquez had to do. Right?

      Or Margarito coming in 3lbs over his career WW weight for his fight with Manny .... and he too never complained.

      Oscar held all the cards and he was the one that made a mistake coming down to 145 ....

      I was not like you. I didn't pretend that Marquez should be OK at WW and I admitted it when hearing the rumors that Marquez would fight Manny at 147 ....
      BUT Marquez had the Floyd fight to realize and measure what he needed to do and he managed to put on weight the right way against Manny. Marquez vs Manny have a great rivalry and Marquez, to his credit, did well. Marquez actually looked even bigger than Manny but the limit remained at 144 .... not 146 like Floyd.



      " .... but but Marquez was #2 P4P" ..... I'm still laughing that after all these years, you still buying those lines ... lol! .... too funny. Thanks for the laugh!
      Last edited by ADP02; 08-12-2012, 08:07 PM.

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      • daggum
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        #153
        Originally posted by GRUSTLER
        That's dumb as hell. How does Floyd know what Pacquiao will accept or reject if he doesn't make the offer? Pac walked away from Floyd twice already. what does Mayweather have to do to get Pac to fight him? He already agreed to 50/50 but Pac didn't want to take the blood tests. then he offered Manny 40MIL flat fee but he said no after he said he would take less to fight Floyd. How does anyone know what Pacquiao will accept or reject? He don't even know what he wants.
        we know that when pac accepts floyd's demands he just changes them anyway. look pac's rejecting my new demands he must be ducking me! why doesn't floyd just stick to his demands instead of changing them over and over? yet its pac who doesn't know what he wants? good spin!
        Last edited by daggum; 08-12-2012, 07:06 PM.

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          #154
          Originally posted by GRUSTLER
          Road blocks? What road blocks are you guys continue to talk about? In 2009 it was random blood testing that Pacquiao didn't want to do to make the fight. Who the hell would think that a professional, elite fighter on top of the sport of boxing would refuse to give blood randomly. I never understood how that was considered a road block. Pacquiao later says " I will take less money to fight Floyd". Then Floyd offers Pacquiao less money and then he gets offended by it? He is a jack ass. Arum don't want the fight until he is ready to make it and that is the reality of it and for people to stay saying other wise after all of these years and revelations are jack asses too.
          So what do you suggest? What should Floyd do to make the fight happen? Assuming he really wants the fight and not just pretending he wants it. What do you think Floyd should do to make the fight happen? I'm not asking Floyd, I'm asking you.
          Last edited by maguirre; 08-12-2012, 07:17 PM.

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            #155
            Originally posted by Cgarcia
            So what do you suggest? What should Floyd do to make the fight happen? Assuming he really wants the fight and not just pretending he wants it. What do you think Floyd should do to make the fight happen? I'm not asking Floyd, I'm asking you.
            Lets be real here..... The only one who pretended to want this fight was Bob Arum and Manny Pacquiao. Could have been negotiated in 2009 for a 2010 fight, but why didn't it happen again? Who was the culprit? Manny Pacquiao. After Pacquiao rejected the random blood tests, he immediately said after he left the fight on the table that he would accept the tests? Why did it take him leaving the fight over blood tests to see that he was willing to accept them? What did he even have to think about it for? Does that sound like someone that wants to fight? Come on fam. No offense, but stop playing the role of a jack ass IF you are not one. Floyd was there ready and willing to do the fight for a 50/50 split and Pac wasn't, over random blood tests that he agreed to after he turned the fight down? What part of the game is that? Then years later Pacquiao talks about taking the lesser share to make the Floyd fight happen but then when confronted on his statement Pac takes offense to being offered the lower amount? Is this registering to you? Does that make any sense at all? What about the "needles", "giving blood weakens me", "Floyd is bigger and that's why he wants the tests", "Superstitious" "Cut takes 6 months to heal", "Have to build a stadium" excuses in between from Bob Arum and Manny Pacquiao? Bob and Pacquiao are the only ones pretending to want this fight. IF you cannot see this then I have no doubt that the movie "Idiocracy" will one day be a reality.

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              #156
              Originally posted by daggum
              we know that when pac accepts floyd's demands he just changes them anyway. look pac's rejecting my new demands he must be ducking me! why doesn't floyd just stick to his demands instead of changing them over and over? yet its pac who doesn't know what he wants? good spin!
              Ummmm.... see post above.

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                #157
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                Ummmm.... see post above.
                Post the link where a fighter says hes sacred of needles.

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                • Reloaded
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Milk Money
                  Post the link where a fighter says hes sacred of needles.
                  You will have to ask Freddie Roach if he taped Manny saying it to him , can you post the fighter publicly saying he didnt say it to Freddie ? seems weird that a kid is questioning Freddie s hearing yet the fighter himself isnt , the scared of needles reason is all over the net correct ?

                  Then where is Mannys personal statement saying that fear of needles was not one of many reason to duck the testing .

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                  • GRUSTLER
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Milk Money
                    Post the link where a fighter says hes sacred of needles.
                    Sooooo..... that is all you got from the whole post?


                    Khan told Fighthype.com, “Manny is scared of needles, his team told me. He don't like needles. He don't like taking tablets. He don't even like taking protein shakes. He don't wanna take a blood test. I mean, with the random testing, they could come up to you an hour before the fight. Manny don't want that...Mayweather tries to control the situation how he wants it.”

                    http://blogs.bettor.com/Amir-Khan-re...g-news-a104700
                    That's what I found but haven't seen anywhere so far that says Manny Pacquiao says it but Bob Arum who has been mentioned in my posts as one of the culprits blocking this fight has. Remember, Pacquiao don't say much anyways without Bob Arum's permission "Talk to my promoter Bob Arum".

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by Milk Money
                      Post the link where a fighter says hes sacred of needles.
                      On a side note, I've heard an excuse about "socks being on too tight" or something along those lines but I've never read anything about this. What's the deal with this one?

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