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who's higher on your ATG list? Mayweather or Hopkins
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Originally posted by daggum View Postyou mean the negotiations where winky agreed then floyd changed his demands after winky agreed? gee that seems to happen a lot with floyd and good fighters. Floyd never changes his demands against ortiz or baldomir though once they agree. so weird.
Cotto was indeed ranked #1 at 154, but I'm not convinced he was the best fighter there. Better than ginger, absolutely. Better than everyone else, I'm not convinced.
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Originally posted by Bushbaby View PostBro believe me I know Floyd wanted absolutely no part of that man, I know. People can say whatever they want about that I know Floyd has never fought the best fighters above 135. He may have fought the higher ranked guys. But no 1 can tell me that Baldomir was better than Margarito when Floyd fought Baldomir.
Cotto was indeed ranked #1 at 154, but I'm not convinced he was the best fighter there. Better than ginger, absolutely. Better than everyone else, I'm not convinced.
of course cotto wasn't the best. if the ring followed their own rankings guys like bundrage would be far above cotto. bundrage beat the #2, #5, and the wbo champ in back to back fights yet he's ranked 8th. cotto beat the #6 guy and 2 unranked guys and he's first? makes no sense. guys like kirkland, molina, and lara would be above him as well. oh well cotto is popular so i guess that makes him the best?
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Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Postdude, even if all of those questions were answered in your favor, it wouldnt mean anything. because jermain taylor still wouldnt be a better fighter than either castillo or corrales. i mean can u name his one dominating signiture win. ill wait.
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Originally posted by Light_Speed View PostWhat's Castillo's dominating signature win? Rematch against worn down Corrales when Castillo didn't make weight?
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Originally posted by Light_Speed View PostWhat's Castillo's dominating signature win? Rematch against worn down Corrales when Castillo didn't make weight?
on the other hand, taylor has clear wins over who? the carcass of william joppy, kasim ouma and jeff lacy? im struggling to see which one of those is better.
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostWe can start with Stevie Johnston, Cesar Bazan, Juan Lazcano, Casamayor, Diaz. Castillo is the greatest lightweight of our generation.
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Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Posti guess u missed his wins over johnston, casamayor, lazcano all very clear wins.
on the other hand, taylor has clear wins over who? the carcass of william joppy, kasim ouma and jeff lacy? im struggling to see which one of those is better.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postdominating? a lot of people thought he lost to johnston. he certainly lost the casamayor fight. bazan, lazcano, and julio diaz are solid wins but not A level. he has no real dominating win unless you count corrales rematch where he failed to make weight. He's still better than taylor because he has a better chin but his record could easily have more losses on it just like taylors.
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