who's higher on your ATG list? Mayweather or Hopkins

[Riley Freeman]

Mayweather

[IMDAZED]

B-Hop's win over Winky>any win Floyd has

Stop with the dumb ****. That win isn't on the level of Floyd's win over Marquez, for starters.

[Jack Napier]

they're pretty close
people always bash the Tito win since Tito was smaller
but since he'd beaten Joppy, you can't discredit it
Oscar was different, win not as good, he looked awful against Sturm
and screw the Winky win, that wasn't impressive at all
Winky was all about his Krispy Kremes

Floyd has done good work for the most part, he didn't fall off until 08
only 2 wins (Baldomir and Marquez) he gets no credit for
everything else is pretty solid
but stop that undefeated shit, it's a joke

[Light_Speed]

Being undefeated means nothing I see..

In and of itself? No it doesn't mean jack shit.

Hopkins has far too many losses.

Gotta give this one to May.

Shitty reasoning. Look at how many losses Ali and Robinson have. It's about who you fight.

Winky was in his absolute prime anybody who argues that has no freaking idea what they are talking about.

He was slightly past his prime and way above his best weight.

why even argue over stinky wright, as if that means anything in regards to who is higher on the ATG list. Winky was just a win for bhop, nothing more. Matters nothing, really.

LOL "stinky" wright. A Hopkins fan calling another fighter a stinker is like the pot calling the kettle black.

Mayweather, and the reason being is that he has dominated several weight classes and remained undefeated his entire career.

I wouldn't say he dominated those weightclasses, he just moved up and beat the top dog then moved up again. It's not like he cleaned up any of these divisions.

[ИATAS]

LOL "stinky" wright. A Hopkins fan calling another fighter a stinker is like the pot calling the kettle black.

I never been a fan of winky. I don't care if people call hopkins names, makes no difference to me.

[letsgobrady]

Hopkins top wins

Winky Wright - Top 3 P4P
Tito Trinidad - Top 3 P4P
Antonio Tarver - Top 10 P4P
Kelly Pavlik - Top 10 P4P

Its not close. B-Hop>>>>>>>Floyd

trinidad and tarver are the only fights that can be considered great wins imo and even the trinidad win is kinda ify being that he is looked at as a ww.
kelly had to move up in weight to fight bernard and so did winky and bernard could have arguably fought winky when he was a middleweight so why fight winky at light heavyweight

[The Tase]

"Show me a undefeated fighter & ill show you somebody who hasnt really fought anybody."

-Whitey Bimstean

If you look at the upper echelon of a lot of ATG rankings almost all of them dont have undefeated fighters at the very top.

There's a reason why.

UNDEFEATED RECORDS = SUSPICIOUSNESS.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Hopkins top wins

Winky Wright - Top 3 P4P
Tito Trinidad - Top 3 P4P
Antonio Tarver - Top 10 P4P
Kelly Pavlik - Top 10 P4P

Its not close. B-Hop>>>>>>>Floyd

2 of those guys had to come up 10+ pounds in weight to face Hopkins. Trinidad was a small MW and Joppy sucks. Hopkins was much bigger than 3 of those guys. I'm not defending Floyd btw.


*waiting for the first moron to reply with the age excuse for him to feed on smaller guys*

[daggum]

Mayweather, and the reason being is that he has dominated several weight classes and remained undefeated his entire career. Mayweather IMO has only had 1 close fight which was the first Castillo fight in which he was moving up in weight, was outweighed and was injured fighting the #1 guy @ lightweight at the time. Hopkins best wins are vs WW's when he was the middleweight champ and he has has numerous disputable victories throughout his career. Also Mayweather is a far supeior fighter with much more skill offensively and defensively. I do give Hopkins credit for never being knocked out and his string of title defenses at MW although the MW division at that time wasnt that great.

hopkins has numerous disputable victories throughout his career? just stop.

[Daļa]

Bernard; he unified the MW division and was the boss for 10 years.