How is Pac still ranked P4P #1 on BS?

[Zano-24]

People kill me with this weight stuff. Go watch the Morales vs Manny fight. Manny came in the ring at 140 pounds which means he probably walks around at that time at something like 142-144 or something close to that. That was awhile ago when they fought.

[IMDAZED]

That's what am trying to figure out, especially against a dude with one leg

Anyone who thinks Pacquiao "dominated" that fight is an idiot. You say Pacquiao won a close one? Fine. Dominated? Find a new sport.

[bare knuckle]

Pac had already fought DLH at 147. If he can fight DLH at 147 why would he need to bring Cotto down to 145? Seems interesting to me.

Pac did the same thing with Mosley.

Mosley: Why won't you fight me at 147 if you fought Oscar.

Pac's Team: "Your not Oscar, your too good"


Manny fights Oscar at 147. Then demands a Fight with Cotto at 145. Then later wants Marquez at 147. Bwhahahahah......Why does the small Manny push the small guys to move up? Why not fight the small dudes, Bradley and Marquez at 140 were its fair. Maybe Manny isn't that small hmmmm......

Manny weighed the same against a lightweight, as Floyd weighed against a WW which was 14lbs. heaver then Floyd.

Floyd beating guys as their best, Manny weigh draining and moving guys up from their best!

Damn......................

[HeroBando]

Anyone who thinks Pacquiao "dominated" that fight is an idiot. You say Pacquiao won a close one? Fine. Dominated? Find a new sport.

The average reported press score was something like 117-111. Thats closer to domination than a close win.

[Khalid X]

It's because Tim Bradley is clearly the 3rd best fighter 147 and below behind Manny and Floyd.

Pacquiao won the fight easily 9 rounds to 3 (if your nice maybe 8 rounds to 4).

Given who Bradley is and who he has beaten, that's enough to remain #1.

Pacquiao over Bradley is as good of a win as Ward over Dawson/Froch, Donaire over Rigondeaux or any great matchup you can make at this point.

[HeroBando]

1. I have never one time, NOT ONCE, gotten a legitimate reason why Pac had to bring Cotto down to 145 after Pac had already fought at a full 147. Not one time has someone been able to justify that to me.

Probably cause ODLH was a non title bout against a non welter contender, and he promptly moved down afterwards. It didn't make him a legit welter, nor could it make him confident in his ability to take punches from real welters like Cotto, ODLH barely even landed anything. Put in in the context of Pac fighting at 130 1 1/2 yrs earlier, and it's not a difficult one to explain.

For some headscratchers, see these:

1. PWill asking to fight for Sergio's lineal title at a cw. And that's after dragging SM up to middle in the first place
2. ODLH requesting to unify his (stolen) mw belt at a cw
3. Cotto requesting to defend his sww belt and no 1 ring rating against a one eyed bum at a cw. It's gotta be unprecedented, don't you think?

[Marvellous1]

No answers to some pretty important questions (I thought so anyway), huh?

Is Manny officially ranked number one in any division? Has he beaten the number one ranked welterweight at any point?

If Manny was insecure about facing Cotto at 147lbs, what do we call his refusal to fight him at 154lbs (more weight stips), despite him being shop worn and past it? More insecurity? Self preservation? Business sense?

Does fighting more often mean something if you're not facing the best in your division and get an unofficial and official loss in your last two fights against fights coming from lower divisions?

[george benton]

The average reported press score was something like 117-111. Thats closer to domination than a close win.

I watched the fight and saw 0 domination.What i saw was Manny landing an occasional straight left and missing most of his punches,I saw Bradley outboxing and outworking him while Manny did nothing in 2 minutes f the round.Yes Manny landed the heavier blows"WHEN"he landed but that was far and few.Then he did nothing in the 11th and 12th...........no1 dominated that fight it was a borefest and a **** fight

[george benton]

It's because Tim Bradley is clearly the 3rd best fighter 147 and below behind Manny and Floyd.

Pacquiao won the fight easily 9 rounds to 3 (if your nice maybe 8 rounds to 4).

Given who Bradley is and who he has beaten, that's enough to remain #1.

Pacquiao over Bradley is as good of a win as Ward over Dawson/Froch, Donaire over Rigondeaux or any great matchup you can make at this point.

Only issue is he "OFFICIALLY LOST" and if you want to play that route he OFFICIALLY BEAT" JMM but the general consensus he he lost to a 38 year old lightweight who was not ranked at 147....so you can't have it both ways thats called being hypocritical

[HeroBando]

No answers to some pretty important questions (I thought so anyway), huh?

Is Manny officially ranked number one in any division? Has he beaten the number one ranked welterweight at any point?

If Manny was insecure about facing Cotto at 147lbs, what do we call his refusal to fight him at 154lbs (more weight stips), despite him being shop worn and past it? More insecurity? Self preservation? Business sense?

Does fighting more often mean something if you're not facing the best in your division and get an unofficial and official loss in your last two fights against fights coming from lower divisions?

Of course, both Mosley and Clottey were top 5 ranked.

After Margo, Pac said he's never fighting that heavy again. What's so complicated about it, did he really need the disclaimer: not even against guys I thoroughly destroyed earlier?