I feel like people take too much from a boxers fight purse

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  • Zarco
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    I feel like people take too much from a boxers fight purse

    The situation with Victor Ortiz and his manager got me thinking. Almost 200k out of a 800k purse...OUCH that would hurt! The hurt would not be so much as a part of me having to give a piece of the pie away. It would just hurt me to think of what I had to do to give that piece of pie away, and what the person on the receiving end did to get the piece of pie. I don't care how many documents were read, how many minutes were spent on the phone, how much thinking was done, how much writing was done. In the end of it all and up until the night of the fight, the boxer(and trainer to a lesser degree) went through 100x more than the manager did. As a boxer endures the agonizing trait of peak athletics and multiple rounds of sparring through training camp, the manager works for the boxer while sitting down in the comfort of a desk. As the boxer enters the ring with an opponent opposite to him who's goal is to rip his head off, the manager gets to watch in the comfort of his ringside seat. All the pain the fighter has endured in the weeks leading up to those moments that the manager is witnessing ringside, all the pain the fighter is fighting through in the ring...and the manager gets to enjoy the part of his job where he gets to spectate. This goes for promoters too...and uncle sam that crook bastard. In any type of job, the employee should get paid. Every one should rightfully get paid. I just feel that people take too much from the person that has to carry the load that no other person within that group comes even close to carrying. I think if you have boxed even in the amateurs you would feel this way more so than others. The boxers are the ones that go through levels & LEVELS above any one else involved with them. Its like...damn take it easy on the boxer. He only gets to make money only off of himself for so long. Every one else involved in getting their hands in the pot gets to make money off of multiple boxers for an extended period of time.
  • lefthook2daliva
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    #2
    The boxers probably feel the same way...

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    • Ray*
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      #3
      Well what can they do? Most of them need a manager, a promoter, a trainer etc, Unless you have one person who doubles up as everything, The fighters dont get paid enough in my opinion, they also end up getting taxed so yeah not a good look.

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      • ..WaRSpencE..
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        #4
        That's with anything in life, unless you're an entrepreneur..if you're working a typical career making a salary of say 100k a year, you better believe you are making the company about 10x that amount to deserve that salary in one form or another..

        Managers and Promoters have to be able to sell you to the public so you could make those figures in the first place, and that's not an easy job.

        So imagine the Managers and Promoters who are getting paid 20% of a fighters purse when the fighter is only making $800 a fight..the manager and promoter went through all that time, negotiations, follow ups calls, and head aches for $160...I don't think the fighter and his trainer would be able to keep up with all that and also train to be a winning, and successful fighter..

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        • bare knuckle
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          #5
          200 k is more than i make in 20 years

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          • sicko
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            #6
            DAMN! But to be fair Rolando Arellano is just doing his job, no different then Cameron Dunkin, Al Haymon and other Managers in boxing, they negotiation these Deals and these fights for you of course they have to get a CUT and lets be honest, Rolando Arellano has gotten Ortiz some HUGE FIGHTS and some HUGE PAYDAYS (along with Golden Boy Promotions Of Course)

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            • sunny31
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              It is much better than it use to be...believe me!

              Promoters are not getting away with what they did in the past, fighters are better advised nowadays and I think the situation now is better.

              You do have to see both sides of the argument though, promoters tend to lose lots of money on fighters early in their career, whilst promoters build them up they normally have to invest lots of money and sometimes if that fighter fails they can take a big hit financially.

              Obviously lots of boxing promoters and managers are horrible pricks, but there are two sides to it. But like I said it is better now, the world is much smaller, and more transparent and boxing is no different, you can see what most fighters make on the internet.

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              • DARKSEID
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                #8
                The fighters have to do 99.9% of the work to generate the revenue

                yet sometimes they see less than 1% of it

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                • mrpain81
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                  • OnePunch
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                    #10
                    you can always take comfort in the fact that most promoters and managers lose money on 95% of the fighters they represent...........

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