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  • jangeorg
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    Are Lacy a great fighter

    Are Lacy great,hell no,he are protected and overrated: A look at Lacy’s last four Title defenses:

    Scott Pemberton (29-3) who hadn’t fought in a year and hadn’t beaten a top ten guy since Omar Sheika (if you considered Sheika a top-ten guy when they fought). The behavior of the referee was controversial to anyone who noticed the subtle way he pinned Pemberton to the canvas with his knee upon stopping the fight. Pemberton protested the stoppage before accepting the loss and what had to be his best payday ever.

    Robin Reid (38-4), who was suddenly ranked at #1 on boxrec.com right before he was slated to face Lacy. How do you justify Reid being given a Title shot when he hadn’t beaten a string of top contenders? Reid is a scrappy fighter, who lost to Sven Ottke (32-0), then went on to beat Brain Magee (22-0), following with a win over Ramdane Serdjane (17-16) before making himself
    available to Jeff Lacy, who won when Reid’s corner threw in the towel. Though Reid had a snowballs chance in hell to win the bout, he protested his corner’s decision to stop the fight.

    Rubin Williams (26-1) was good against lousy competition, which makes up 90% of his resume. In November of 2002, he fought a man with a record of 58 Wins and 238 Losses! There’s no way he deserved a title shot when his last five fights were against unknown fighters with dubious records. That fight ended in a TKO when the ref stopped it after Lacy landed a series of unanswered shots in the seventh round. Williams, who gave Lacy one of the toughest fights I’ve seen him in, suddenly fell apart in the seventh, almost as if on schedule.

    Omar Sheika (26-6). How in the world does a guy who loses four of his last seven fights get a major Title shot? Was it because he beat James Buster, who just lost three of his last five? I’m sure it had more to do with Sheika having a recognizable name more than his qualifications. Like Pemberton, Sheika can surprise you with a quality, ‘blue collar’ effort once in a while. Unfortunately, Sheika is incapable of throwing a punch and blocking a shot at the same time and is considerably one-dimensional. Sheika won a fair share of the early rounds against Lacy and it turned out to be a close fight that went the distance and rendered Lacy the winner by UD 12.

    Five fights ago, Lacy fought his first unbeaten opponent, Vitali Tsypko (13-0) and the fight was stopped and called a No Decision after Tsypko suffered a cut caused by a head butt. They never settled things with a rematch.


    Lacy is a big Star because boxing has no legitimate structure or administration. There’s no real ranking system
    Lacy are built up to undefeated status fighting hand picked opponents
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    #2
    Originally posted by jangeorg
    Are Lacy great,hell no,he are protected and overrated: A look at Lacy’s last four Title defenses:

    Scott Pemberton (29-3) who hadn’t fought in a year and hadn’t beaten a top ten guy since Omar Sheika (if you considered Sheika a top-ten guy when they fought). The behavior of the referee was controversial to anyone who noticed the subtle way he pinned Pemberton to the canvas with his knee upon stopping the fight. Pemberton protested the stoppage before accepting the loss and what had to be his best payday ever.

    Robin Reid (38-4), who was suddenly ranked at #1 on boxrec.com right before he was slated to face Lacy. How do you justify Reid being given a Title shot when he hadn’t beaten a string of top contenders? Reid is a scrappy fighter, who lost to Sven Ottke (32-0), then went on to beat Brain Magee (22-0), following with a win over Ramdane Serdjane (17-16) before making himself
    available to Jeff Lacy, who won when Reid’s corner threw in the towel. Though Reid had a snowballs chance in hell to win the bout, he protested his corner’s decision to stop the fight.

    Rubin Williams (26-1) was good against lousy competition, which makes up 90% of his resume. In November of 2002, he fought a man with a record of 58 Wins and 238 Losses! There’s no way he deserved a title shot when his last five fights were against unknown fighters with dubious records. That fight ended in a TKO when the ref stopped it after Lacy landed a series of unanswered shots in the seventh round. Williams, who gave Lacy one of the toughest fights I’ve seen him in, suddenly fell apart in the seventh, almost as if on schedule.

    Omar Sheika (26-6). How in the world does a guy who loses four of his last seven fights get a major Title shot? Was it because he beat James Buster, who just lost three of his last five? I’m sure it had more to do with Sheika having a recognizable name more than his qualifications. Like Pemberton, Sheika can surprise you with a quality, ‘blue collar’ effort once in a while. Unfortunately, Sheika is incapable of throwing a punch and blocking a shot at the same time and is considerably one-dimensional. Sheika won a fair share of the early rounds against Lacy and it turned out to be a close fight that went the distance and rendered Lacy the winner by UD 12.

    Five fights ago, Lacy fought his first unbeaten opponent, Vitali Tsypko (13-0) and the fight was stopped and called a No Decision after Tsypko suffered a cut caused by a head butt. They never settled things with a rematch.


    Lacy is a big Star because boxing has no legitimate structure or administration. There’s no real ranking system
    Lacy are built up to undefeated status fighting hand picked opponents

    If you dont like Jeff Lacy who in the Super Middlweight division do you like kind sir?

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    • RAESAAD
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      **** you and I suppose Kessler has faced a whole bunch of better guys????Lacy KO Kessler within 8............

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        #4
        Every young fighter is undefeated from hand picked opponents. At least he is willing to fight and prove he is the best.

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          #5
          Originally posted by scap
          If you dont like Jeff Lacy who in the Super Middlweight division do you like kind sir?

          I dont say i dont like Jeff Lacy,i think he is a good fighter,but i will see him against Mikkel Kessler before i will call Lacy great

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            #6
            Originally posted by raesaad
            **** you and I suppose Kessler has faced a whole bunch of better guys????Lacy KO Kessler within 8............

            Can`t you take the truth,it`s hurts

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              #7
              Originally posted by jangeorg
              Can`t you take the truth,it`s hurts
              Truth is he is the best SMW in the world and will prove it soon........I would love to see him fight Kessler too.

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                #8
                Originally posted by jangeorg
                I dont say i dont like Jeff Lacy,i think he is a good fighter,but i will see him against Mikkel Kessler before i will call Lacy great

                Kessler will have no excuses for not fighting Jeff Lacy-as a young pup Left Hook has already proven he will fight anyone-anywhere!

                If Kessler truly wants Lacy all he has to do is ask.

                Oh-if you are not going to make a judgement on Jeff until he fights Kessler that is kind of silly isnt it?

                For example lets say Jeff goes into Wales and scores an impressive victory over Joe Clazaghe (Im rootin for Joe keep in mind) and then Mikel Kessler wants to fight...should Lacy as the king of the division have to go into Kessler's backyard then? Or is Kessler a stud like Lacy meaning he will fight anywhere he has to?

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                • TyrantT316
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                  #9
                  So how many top 10 Super Middleweights has Kessler beaten?

                  Lacy is cleaning out the old and the new of the division whether you like it or not!

                  =)

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by scap
                    Kessler will have no excuses for not fighting Jeff Lacy-as a young pup Left Hook has already proven he will fight anyone-anywhere!

                    If Kessler truly wants Lacy all he has to do is ask.

                    Oh-if you are not going to make a judgement on Jeff until he fights Kessler that is kind of silly isnt it?

                    For example lets say Jeff goes into Wales and scores an impressive victory over Joe Clazaghe (Im rootin for Joe keep in mind) and then Mikel Kessler wants to fight...should Lacy as the king of the division have to go into Kessler's backyard then? Or is Kessler a stud like Lacy meaning he will fight anywhere he has to?

                    Kessler will fight anywhere and he has offer Lacy to fight him in US,but Lacy say no thanks.And dont say Kessler pricing himself out because Lacy could be payed the same to fight in Denmark and he still say`s no thanks

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