Sergio Martinez : "I'm number 2 P4P behind Floyd, Pacquiao is not top 5"

[mathed]

You can't be number 2 with Martinez's recent fight history.

Yeah, you're right

Martinez' last 4 fights:

4-0....... 3 KO's, 1 TKO

Combined opponent record coming into the fights:

127-4-0


Your case just got thrashed!

[Redd Foxx]

I like Sergio a lot but the comment about Pac was pretty ******. I hate it when people let their emotions speak in their rankings. Just man up and give credit where it's due.

[HeroBando]

Martinez has been KO'ing all of his opponents in great fashion lately. Great wins in Pavlik, Williams, and Dzinziruk. Should have a win over Cintron. And solid stoppages over Macklin and Barker. Guy's earned his spot.


Pacquiao hasn't looked good in a fight since the Cotto fight back in 2009. Looked like crap against Shane, should have lost to Marquez, and has an offical loss to Bradley. I mean I don't really see what's there to understand here bro, my two cents of course.

Pavlik, no way was he top 20 p4p. Dz, not p4p top 100. Great wins, lol. Barker, Macklin are worse than anyone Pac has fought in a long time, between the two they'll be lucky to get a hold of a paper belt some day. Add it all up, Martinez is careerwise 2-1 against p4p top100 opp, with one of the wins straight out of rehab.

How did Pac look like crap vs Mosley? Won all rounds, dropped him, had him running. How did FMJ and Canelo do on that account? How about Margarito, Pac looked bad there? And when did he ever look good against JMM?

And why are you giving Sergio Cintron (another great one lol), and not Pac Bradley?

[hugh grant]

ok if you think that Pac beat Bradley then he clearly lost to JMM
he didnt win both
so lets get technical and say the truth
he beat JMM and lost to bradley
you lose your most recent fight to a fighter not in the top 5 P4P and you are out of the top 5 yourself

Well he clearly beat the great bradley, as most experts will tell you anything from 11 rounds to at least 2 if your being generous to bradley.

As for JMM it was a close fight which many thought JMM won and vice versa.

[GrandpaBernard]

I don't know about pacquiao being that low, but he did lost the 2nd spot when he lost to Marquez

[Chuckguy]

Well he clearly beat the great bradley, as most experts will tell you anything from 11 rounds to at least 2 if your being generous to bradley.

As for JMM it was a close fight which many thought JMM won and vice versa.

bro you cant argue this. You have no leg to stand on
are you talking about the same experts that had JMM beating manny? and it wasnt even close
just do yourself a favor and call it like it is in the books
he beat JMM and lost to Bradley
I came to deal with Pac JMM 3 and I have a better case than you do in Bradley.
Bradley never got frustrated and never looked defeated
in Pac and JMM after 3 rounds pac had lost his step and his confidence. He would walk back to his corner with his head and shoulders down
Pacs body language said it all in that fight

but like I said I got over it so you need to as well

[NearHypnos]

I dont think Pac is top 5 most days... Generally, the only people ahead of you are people who can beat you. Is Pac p4p better, at this time..than Floyd? No, so he's at two by default. Better than Martinez? Most people think not anymore, so he drops again. Better than Ward? Definitely not, down he goes again. Better than Marquez? Depends who you ask..so thats already up to debate. Better than Donaire? Depends who you ask... Better than the K bros? Imo, yes. People really only think Ward and Floyd could beat Serg p4p, so I dont see anything wrong with his statement. You dont here anybody else saying stuff when Rigo says he is #1 p4p and number 2 lol.

Anyway, Pac isnt number 2 p4p..But I wouldnt comfortably say Martinez is number 2 either. 2 is in limbo.

I also wouldnt read too much into Dawson-Ward ratings from him. He admires Bernard so of course he'd say Dawson.


Hell why do we care what he says? We should be wondering why he didnt do the normal thing and call himself number 1 lol. I guess the Pac fans dont like it. Im a Pac fan and dot care so...whatevs

[hugh grant]

bro you cant argue this. You have no leg to stand on
are you talking about the same experts that had JMM beating manny? and it wasnt even close
just do yourself a favor and call it like it is in the books
he beat JMM and lost to Bradley
I came to deal with Pac JMM 3 and I have a better case than you do in Bradley.
Bradley never got frustrated and never looked defeated
in Pac and JMM after 3 rounds pac had lost his step and his confidence. He would walk back to his corner with his head and shoulders down
Pacs body language said it all in that fight

but like I said I got over it so you need to as well

Pac and JMM was close. Anyone who thought JMM won, only had jmm winning by a few rounds or so. And dont use body language as evidence as boxers are the biggest actors in the world. Some boxers can know they are losing 11 rounds and act as if they won the lottery.

Pac beat Bradley. How can a one legged man beat Pac?

[Chuckguy]

Pavlik, no way was he top 20 p4p. Dz, not p4p top 100. Great wins, lol. Barker, Macklin are worse than anyone Pac has fought in a long time, between the two they'll be lucky to get a hold of a paper belt some day. Add it all up, Martinez is careerwise 2-1 against p4p top100 opp, with one of the wins straight out of rehab.

How did Pac look like crap vs Mosley? Won all rounds, dropped him, had him running. How did FMJ and Canelo do on that account? How about Margarito, Pac looked bad there? And when did he ever look good against JMM?

And why are you giving Sergio Cintron (another great one lol), and not Pac Bradley?

DUDE pac fought clottey margs mosley bradley none were near the top 25 P4P when he fought them
you have no argument bro

come on man it works both ways Pac was never the lineal WW champ or SWW champ ***y Sergio is the Lineal MW champ
give him some props

I dont get it the same people that are knocking on ***y sergio for not fighting no one are the ones praising Chavez Jr for his supposed accomplishments
which are what??????

[Chuckguy]

Pac and JMM was close. Anyone who thought JMM won, only had jmm winning by a few rounds or so. And dont use body language as evidence as boxers are the biggest actors in the world. Some boxers can know they are losing 11 rounds and act as if they won the lottery.

Pac beat Bradley. How can a one legged man beat Pac?

Well a one legged man did beat pac
Im talking specifically about pacs body language not other fighters
when have you ever seen pac so down durning a fight and after a fight?
NEVER
he knew he lost bro deal with it
lucky for him he was given the decision