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  • Dave Rado
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    #51
    Originally posted by jbpanama
    I Vote for Sweet Pea, Khan Must get better defence, and Pernell Brings IT!!
    As a trainer Whittaker doesn't exactly have a great track record. And as a fighter his style was totally different from the style Khan needs to adopt.

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    • Dave Rado
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      #52
      Originally posted by Boxing Sage
      There's only one thing Amir Khan needs to change to be great, and it's not his trainer. Unfortunately for Amir, chin transplants aren't yet medically possible, so expect another KO loss whether he stays with Roach or not.
      Lots of fighters with worse chins than Khan have had Hall of Fame careers.

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      • Longjab10
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        #53
        Originally posted by Dave Rado
        Lots of fighters with worse chins than Khan have had Hall of Fame careers.
        I'm no historian and I am not taking it on you but I would like to hear names sir,

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        • Chunk..
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          #54
          Originally posted by Drunk Punch
          Khan blaming trainer shocker.

          Roach did what he could to make Khan a better defence minded boxer as evidenced in his performance against Kotelnik - boring to watch but smart and effective. For some reason Khan these days gets a rush of blood to the head and suddenly tries to **** it out with his opponents instead of staying at range and boxing clever.

          He has no-one to blame but himself.
          His already said that. Where you been for the last week?

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          • DonCarlos83
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            #55
            Originally posted by Dave Rado
            You irrational hatred of him makes you a clown. He's been caught many times, including by big punchers, but has only done that "dance" twice in his career.
            Against Prescott, Maidana, and at least twice against Garcia!!! That's more than twice friend. I don't have an irrational hatred of him I think he is over rated, arrogant and one dimensional!!
            He doesn't deserve the hype surrounding him and he definitely doesn't deserve to be placed in the same category as Mayweather and Pacquiao as he seems to think.
            And just out of interest which "big punchers" have caught him??? Zab Judah???? Paulie malignaggi???
            He has fought 3 punchers in his career, 2 have convincingly stopped him and the referee rescued him from the other

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              #56
              Originally posted by English_Lion
              He needs to learn he can not trade in the middle of the ring..NEVER EVER TRADE, just hit and move
              Not even against paul malignaggi? :P

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                #57
                Originally posted by Dave Rado
                As a trainer Whittaker doesn't exactly have a great track record. And as a fighter his style was totally different from the style Khan needs to adopt.
                Steward and Diaz (Miguel Cotto's trainer) would be better.
                Steward can probably provide better structure.
                Beristein is too focus on JMM for good reason.

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                • Dave Rado
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Longjab10
                  I'm no historian and I am not taking it on you but I would like to hear names sir,
                  Terry Norris definitely had a worse chin than Khan. Wlad Klitschko arguably has a worse chin and is a shoo-in for the Hall of Fame. Tommy Hearns arguably had a worse chin, certainly no better. And that's just off the top of my head without putting any real thought into it, so I'm sure there are many others.

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                  • Dave Rado
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by DonCarlos83
                    Against Prescott, Maidana, and at least twice against Garcia!!! That's more than twice friend.
                    He didn't do any dance against Maidana. He was hurt in the tenth but he didn't do a dance (he was badly wobbled but so have many people been who have great chins - being badly wobbled is not the same thing as doing a dance); and he survived well for more than two more rounds. And prior to the tenth he took many of Maidana's hardest punches without flinching.

                    Originally posted by DonCarlos83
                    I don't have an irrational hatred of him I think he is over rated, arrogant and one dimensional!!
                    He is not at all one-dimensional. He's over-rated by some, and seriously under-rated by you. He's extremely talented and has serious flaws. But to call him one-dimensional shows you have an irrational hatred of him, because no objective person would call him that. His ring intelligence isn't great but that's doesn't make him one-dimensional.

                    As for his frequent statements that sound arrogant, I think it's more likely that he's naive, childlish, self-centred and not very bright, rather than arrogant in the true sense.

                    Originally posted by DonCarlos83
                    He doesn't deserve the hype surrounding him and he definitely doesn't deserve to be placed in the same category as Mayweather and Pacquiao as he seems to think.
                    Of course not, but he has naive dreams of glory like a school kid who dreams of achieving great things when they grow up. Most fighters with any talent have such dreams but don't express them in a way that sounds arrogant like he does. But I don't think he's genuinely arrogant, he sounds more childish than anything to me with the ****** things he says. And in any case, while the things he says might be a valid reason not to like him as a person (although I think he's likeable despite his ****** statements, they're just part of his childish enthusiasm for life as far as I'm concerned), they are not a reason to under-rate him as a boxer or to call him one-dimensional when he clearly isn't.

                    Originally posted by DonCarlos83
                    And just out of interest which "big punchers" have caught him??? Zab Judah???? Paulie malignaggi???
                    If that was supposed to be funny it failed dismally (although Judah is a big puncher but he didn't catch him). Maidana caught him many times without seriously hurting him, before he did hurt him in the tenth; but Khan didn't do a dance then, and he recovered. And your excuse about the referee is just an excuse.
                    Last edited by Dave Rado; 07-20-2012, 08:46 PM.

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                    • Dave Rado
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by sdcluser
                      Steward and Diaz (Miguel Cotto's trainer) would be better.
                      Steward can probably provide better structure.
                      Beristein is too focus on JMM for good reason.
                      If his beef with Roach is that he isn't giving him enough of his time, Steward is a no-no - he would give him a lot less of his time than Roach does.

                      Not sure about Diaz.

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