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    Taylor-Winky negotiations begin

    WBC orders negotiations for Taylor-Wright title fightBy Dan Rafael
    ESPN.com


    The chess game being played to bring about an eventual fight between middleweight champion Jermain Taylor and Winky Wright took another twist Monday when the WBC ordered the sides to commence negotiations for the mandatory fight.


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    After Taylor defeated Bernard Hopkins in a Dec. 3 rematch to retain the Ring magazine title, as well as three sanctioning organization belts, he hoped to return to his hometown of Little Rock, Ark., for an April defense. After that, Taylor said, he would look to fight Wright in the summer.

    However, Wright (50-3, 25 KOs) has campaigned loudly to face Taylor next, even though his subdued points victory against Sam Soliman on Saturday night did little to enhance the marketability of the fight.

    Nonetheless, the WBC said if no agreement between Taylor promoter Lou DiBella and Wright promoter Gary Shaw is reached, a purse bid would be ordered for Jan. 20 in Mexico City.

    The promoter who bids the most money wins the right to promote the fight. Taylor, as champion, would be due 75 percent of the winning bid with the remaining 25 percent going to Wright, the challenger.

    Wright would certainly get a bigger cut than 25 percent under a negotiated deal, so it remains to be seen if he would settle for a purse bid.

    Regardless, Wright said he was happy that a fight with Taylor drew one step closer Monday.

    "I am extremely pleased with the WBC's decision to proceed with the mandatory title defense and I look forward to meeting Jermain head-on in the ring in my next fight," said Wright, the former undisputed junior middleweight champ who made his middleweight debut in May with a thorough thrashing of Felix Trinidad.

    "Everyone knows that after every fight, I have always asked for another big fight. No breathers for me," Wright continued. "I only want the biggest fights against the best fighters because I am a competitor and I believe a champion should act like a champion. Now we are going to see who the best middleweight really is -- Jermain Taylor or me."

    DiBella told ESPN.com that he hoped something could be worked out between the sides that would allow Taylor (25-0, 17 KOs) to fight in April before facing Wright, but if nothing can be they would consider Wright.

    "We'll commence negotiations and see what happens," DiBella said. "I doubt we will reach an agreement but we could. If we don't and it goes to a purse bid we get the majority of the revenue, so it will be interesting to see if Winky is OK with fighting for 25 percent. But we're not going to give up the [WBC] title to avoid Winky Wright."

    DiBella said he thought it was "idiotic" for the fight to happen next because it needed some more time to brew into a major event, reasoning that a Taylor fight on HBO in April would be a big help.

    "I don't think it's out of the question that we could fight Winky next but I think it's idiotic and ******," DiBella said. "Winky's fight on Saturday night didn't help Winky at all. He didn't look good and he only drew [4,682] fans. The fight with Jermain is not ready yet. After Winky's performance Saturday night, who's buying that on pay-per-view? I don't think it has been built sufficiently into a good performing pay-per-view event. If it does happen next, it would have to be on HBO, and I'm not sure the money is there to make it happen. I'll have to talk to HBO about that. We prefer to do the fight when it makes more sense, but we'll pursue the negotiation and see what happens."

    Ideally, DiBella said he would like to work something out with Shaw that would delay the fight until the summer.

    "We're not saying that we won't fight Winky next, but I think we can do something that works for everyone," DiBella said.
  • psychopath
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    WBC? OH Yes Sulaiman can smell the color of money.

    As I said this fight is bound to happen sooner or later.

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    • mic573
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      I don't think this fight is going to do well on PPV no matter how many months they promote the fight. Winky isn't going to be a huge draw no matter what and Hopkins being with Golden Boy had alot to do with the Taylor/Hopkins fights getting 400,000 buys.

      I'm looking forward to this fight but I don't think it will do well.

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      • Pac Man Fan 83
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        I think the fight could do between 275,000 - 325,000 buys if it is promoted correctly. Basically I think Dibella has the right idea, they just need to let things build up.

        If the fight is in April it will do about 150,000 buys.

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        • restless_438
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          YES!!!! This is the BEST news i've read in boxing ALL YEAR. HAHAHAHA the WBC says the fight HAS to happen soon and there's NOTHING HBO or DiBella can do about it! The bottomline and the moral of this story is a fightdate shouldn't be determined by how well it will sell to the public.

          The only defense Taylor backers basically have at this point is "the fight won't sell well" and fans really don't have any justification to use it. It may be a logical point for Taylor promoters and other getting paid $$$ to back their man, but this is the right decision, the last thing i want to see is Taylor's camp making Wright wait for years and then having another "aging" debate over the results. I'm not saying that's what would of happened, but who knows if it's left in the promoter/manager's hands.

          This is a great step in getting this fight signed and set! Then again, im not gonna get my hopes up yet until negotiations are over.
          Last edited by restless_438; 12-12-2005, 06:43 PM.

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            Originally posted by restless_438
            the last thing i want to see is Taylor's camp making Wright wait for years and then having another "aging" debate over the results.
            Taylor wanted to have one fight in Aril, and then fight Winky next summer. That is not "years."

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              Originally posted by Tito Fan 83
              Taylor wanted to have one fight in Aril, and then fight Winky next summer. That is not "years."
              i see nothing wrong with this, as long as taylor actully fights winky in the summer
              let the kid go home and preform in front of his hometown, or have taylor fight winky in little rock
              eiter one is good

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              • restless_438
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                Originally posted by Tito Fan 83
                Taylor wanted to have one fight in April, and then fight Winky next summer. That is not "years."
                I never said TAYLOR wanted it that way, keep in mind Jermain doesn't control who he fights, the people around him do. I've never questioned Taylor's want to fight the best. And the "years" part is a "worst-case scenario".

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                • gattifan24
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                  They should let it build a little. I still think both guys on the same card first is the way they should do more fights, or on back2back weekends at least. 300K does sound about right to me too. No need to rush it, there isn't a ton of great middleweight fights that are on hold with this one in wait

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                  • scap
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                    I cant wait to see the first offer that Winky turns down...

                    I was envisioning a Hopkins vs. Winky fight where they were both asking for the moon and HBO had to go to each of them and say sorry fellas no one wants to see you too fight on PPV, maybe we can squeeze you in on HBO Championship Boxing for a fraction of the purse.

                    Taylor is the clear draw even though he failed to impress and win over new fans against Hopkins...was Hopkins just that dificult an opponent? I think many people think so and expect future fireworks from him as for Winky...well we all no what to expect from him and it is nothing that gets our blood pumping!

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