Do Freddie Roach fighters have shoddy defense?

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  • ShoulderRoll
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    #1

    Do Freddie Roach fighters have shoddy defense?

    Look at Pac, Khan, and Chavez Jr. There seems to be a pattern there.
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    #2
    he teaches defense with the legs...

    roach fighters all do one thing, get off first, use legs as defense, then flury, run, flury run,

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      #3
      yes. ive always said put khan with mayweather sr and khan would be a beast

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      • Panginoon
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        #4
        Manny Pacquiao has better defense than all of them. He has those quick elusive movements.

        Then it's Chavez Jr and then the rest are just horrible.

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          #5
          Originally posted by DoubleMM
          he teaches defense with the legs...

          roach fighters all do one thing, get off first, use legs as defense, then flury, run, flury run,
          Also, the patented weak high guard.

          I still don't understand why Roach doesn't tell them to use that in case of emergency only because that **** is terrible. Even when they're winning their fights they temporarily look like they're losing because of how weak they look using it (and Pacquiao, especially, is no physically weak fighter). Khan gets knocked the round the ring so even if he blocks the punches it doesn't achieve its full purpose because it still impresses the judges.

          A Roach fighter's defense is basically his offense.

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          • yoz
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            #6
            No a great year for Freddy...

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              Pac has good defense, he knows how to use it really well. JCC on the other hand doesnt give a fcuk about defense.

              Either way both of those guys can afford getting hit whereas Khan cant

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                #8
                Originally posted by Mastrangelo
                Of course, he calls himself offensive coach and that's who he is, he was ofennsive fighter also, he doesn't seem to have good idea of how to teach fighters defensive moves.
                Yeah, this could be a case of him not being able to teach what he doesn't know.

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                  i think is the way freddie roach speaks lol

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                    After the first round it seemed like Freddie took forever to get his instructions out.

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