The lack of strict refereeing in UK bouts - growing concern or myth?

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  • !! Anorak
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    The lack of strict refereeing in UK bouts - growing concern or myth?

    I've seen this touted a lot lately, and partly I suspect it's because of the lack of UK bouts that get screened in America, leading to a misconception.

    I actually saw an idiotic thread on here recently suggesting that Nigel Benn was almost actively encouraged to rabbit punch McClennan, and we all know that Ricky Hatton is a bit rough and ready.

    Yet are these a "lower standard" of strict refereeing in England or just isolated examples?

    For instance, these past couple of weeks I've seen the following from America: Bernard Hopkins repeatedly headbutt Jermaine Taylor, while Taylor himself did a "power rabbit" (c. Slipx) on the back of Hopkins's head. On the undercard was a guy who hit a man on one knee without being penalised for it. And, as we all know, biting off your opponent's ear only gets a point deduction.

    So I'm sure these "incidents" happen as a minority regardless of location, and it's an ignorant myth to suggest it's "customary" for English bouts.

    What made me think of this (apart from all the obligatory Brit-bash threads that are thankfully not appearing as often lately) is that I was reading that Marciano special in the back of the latest Ring Magazine. It described Marciano hitting a man while he was down, with the retrospectively amusing line (written by Nat Fleischer in 1952) of "he risked disqualification if the bout had been held in England".


    So... has the American perception of UK bouts fallen, has the standard of UK bouts fallen, or is it just ill-informed fallacy?
    Last edited by Guest; 12-12-2005, 01:21 PM.
  • theironone
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    depends what nation your from

    seriously i think it depends on the individual. There are some **** refs here as there are in every country, **** even some of the top guys have had the off night, they are only human.
    I think if they are blatently biased or consistently **** then they should be pulled up for it.
    Obviously some refs will enforce the rules 100% at all feasible times but most do let a few things slide its human nature

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    • scap
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      #3
      What scares me is this Anorak...

      Ricky Hatton was badly badly cut and no one ever looked at it...they didnt care there man was going to be aloud to fight regardless. Had Floyd Mayweather of been cut in Manchester they would be checking that thing every other minute.

      My boy (who I love) Joe Calzaghe was in two fight where his oppoenent was given a real raw deal in terms of stoppage. Byron Mitchell was ****ed and so was Sheika...now I dont think either man was gonna beat Joe but too me it appears some officials are quick to protect house fighters.

      I can envision a scenario where Joe Calzaghe stuns Jeff LAcy early much like he did Byron Mitchel and the ref jumps in and waves things of-Im a Calzaghe man but the idea of this in my head makes me sick.

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      • Super_Lightweight
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        hmm

        Man, if they did that to Lacy...holy ****. I'd hope Lacy would just drag Joe into the parking lot and duke it out there.

        But anywho...the thing that concernes me about UK refs is they have the same mother****ers reffing the hometowm guys over and over. They can use other refs. It smacks of favoritism when you got exact same guy reffing Hatton every time. But, to be fair, fights like Hopkins-Taylor and Hatton-Tszyu I have no problem with as all fighters involved fought dirty. Nady warned Taylor a lot but didn't show any favoritism in the last fight by penalizing him. He kept a cool head about a minor issue.

        In Hatton-Tszyu, it was really dirty but both guys were doing it so there's only one thing to say and that's that the ref should've stopped both guys, because they were doing very dangerous things to each other that can cause damage (elbows, Rabbit punches, etc.).

        There's no way for me to know by percentage which refs are worse, but I think we all know Germany is worse than any of them. That Gonzalez guy who reffed Raheem-Juarez was obviously a prick as well.

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        • scap
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          #5
          The top US referees are damn good...where you get jobbed in the US is if you are fighting in Minnoesota or Alabama or Kentucky...you dont get jobbed by the Nevada State Athletic commision or their officals, at least in my biased mind.

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          • !! Anorak
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            Originally posted by scap
            What scares me is this Anorak...

            Ricky Hatton was badly badly cut and no one ever looked at it...they didnt care there man was going to be aloud to fight regardless. Had Floyd Mayweather of been cut in Manchester they would be checking that thing every other minute.

            My boy (who I love) Joe Calzaghe was in two fight where his oppoenent was given a real raw deal in terms of stoppage. Byron Mitchell was ****ed and so was Sheika...now I dont think either man was gonna beat Joe but too me it appears some officials are quick to protect house fighters.

            I can envision a scenario where Joe Calzaghe stuns Jeff LAcy early much like he did Byron Mitchel and the ref jumps in and waves things of-Im a Calzaghe man but the idea of this in my head makes me sick.
            Yeah, I dunno enough to know if the Hatton thing was something they knew the corner would fix or not. But stuff like that does give a bad impression, I know.

            "Homer" refs are bad, I agree. I think the top five homers I can think of (straight off the top of my head) are:

            1. Robin Reid fighting clean but getting warned for a clean punch against Sven Ottke.

            2. Scott Harrison getting a draw when outboxed by Victor Polo.

            3. Lennox vs. Tyson. "Don't blink, Lennox, or I'm taking a point off! Are you okay, Mike, I'll suck you off in a minute."

            4. Robin Reid vs. Jeff Lacy. "I'm docking you a point... oh, ****, he's gone and decked you after the break while you weren't looking. Oh well, I guess I'd better dock you the point AND make it a count."

            5. Williams vs. Tyson. "Come on, get up, Mike, and I'll suck it."

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            • RAESAAD
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              #7
              Growing concern and not just in the UK.

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              • !! Anorak
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                RE: the same refs. Now, I don't know what the number of refs working at the top level in England is, but you have to compare it against the number of US refs working at their equivalent top level. It'd be like me saying "that guy always gets reffed by Nady or Steele in his top bouts", ya dig?

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                • RobbieD
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Anorak

                  2. Scott Harrison getting a draw when outboxed by Victor Polo.
                  Nothing to do with the ref. The judges scored it a draw.

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                  • !! Anorak
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by RobbieD
                    Nothing to do with the ref. The judges scored it a draw.
                    Oops! Sorry, I'm tired tonight, not thinking straight. Pretend I never said that one.

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