RING Ratings Update: Those Who Drug Tests Are Out

[Bossy]

All drugs are supposed to "enhance performance". If your Doctor gives you a drug that DECREASES YOUR PERFORMANCE, you should sue him.

No, drugs are suppose to increase your HEALTH. Bring you back to the state you were in pre-illness.

Taking a pill to cure a headache doesn't enhance your performance, it takes you back to the you, you were before the headache. You don't develop strength from Tylenol.

Taking anything containing testosterone, which gives someone an edge on strength, ability to build muscle etc, is an unfair advantage and would give the person an unfair advantage over someone who is solely relying on their body's natural product of it? At least that's the way I see things ...

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Okaaay....So what about fighters that refuse to do random testing?


Lesson learned: Refuse random testing and keep your rating in Ring Magazine.


The only way something like this would work is if all fighters go through the same testing.

They can't enforce this on people who refuse testing. Testing is not a mandatory thing in boxing YET (hoping one day it will be). Therefore they can't enforce it on people who refuse testing. Im assuming you're talking about people who refuse to do random testing of course.

On the other hand, like I asked, what if the person dodges the commission's testing like Chavez Jr did and the other guys? THEN that SHOULD BE punishable IMO.

[mushahadeen]

The recent spate of failed drug tests has underscored an obvious – and troubling – problem in boxing.

When Protein is meant to "enhance performance". It says so right on the label.

There is no reason why Whey Protein, Contact Lenses, Melatonin, etc., which are marketed as "performance enhancing" should be legal, while other performance enhancing medications are not.

It is an arbitrary ruling made by organizations, labs, and athletic commissions so that they have a reason to exist. So that they don't have to get real jobs.

It's all about $$$$$$$$.

[Cardinal Buck]

No, drugs are suppose to increase your HEALTH. Bring you back to the state you were in pre-illness.

Taking a pill to cure a headache doesn't enhance your performance, it takes you back to the you, you were before the headache. You don't develop strength from Tylenol.

Taking anything containing testosterone, which gives someone an edge on strength, ability to build muscle etc, is an unfair advantage and would give the person an unfair advantage over someone who is solely relying on their body's natural product of it? At least that's the way I see things ...

Bulls hit. There is such thing as a healthy level of testosterone. If a person has less than needed (see James Toney), they are in an unhealthy state without it.

[sicko]

*** RING and their Ratings

I don't go by RING RATINGS anyway!

[mushahadeen]

No, drugs are suppose to increase your HEALTH. Bring you back to the state you were in pre-illness.

Taking a pill to cure a headache doesn't enhance your performance

There are banned substances that do EXACTLY the same thing.

These "performance enhancing drugs" allow your body to recover faster i.e. bring your body back to a pre-stress state-- so that you can get back to the gym and train more.

Whey Protein claims to do the same thing, albeit to a lesser degree. The line at which one goes from legal to banned is entirely arbitrary.

These wholly arbitrary lines are drawn by testing organizations, labs, and athletic commissions that need a reason to exist so that they can have jobs so that they can get paid so that they can pay their mortgages.

[Bossy]

Bulls hit. There is such thing as a healthy level of testosterone. If a person has less than needed (see James Toney), they are in an unhealthy state without it.

Right, but if someone has a lower than average or 'normal' production of testosterone, taking something that contains it to bring them to their opponents level not above it, surely isn't cheating, but evening the playing field is it not?

Taking anything above that, that would increase it above and beyond his opponent is.

There are banned substances that do EXACTLY the same thing.

These "performance enhancing drugs" allow your body to recover faster i.e. bring your body back to a pre-stress state-- so that you can get back to the gym and train more.

Whey Protein claims to do the same thing, albeit to a lesser degree. The line at which one goes from legal to banned is entirely arbitrary.

These wholly arbitrary lines are drawn by testing organizations, labs, and athletic commissions that need a reason to exist so that they can have jobs so that they can get paid so that they can pay their mortgages.

I understand your point, I do.

But there is clearly a reason certain substances and banned and others are not. Do you think they take an alphabetical list of substances and say hmmm let's ban everything that starts with the letters A, S T, Y, X, V, G, B, U, and O? There is a reason substance are banned. I for one think it's a good thing.

People rely on pills, powders and medication far too much now, what the hell did people do before all of these things?

[mushahadeen]

People rely on pills, powders and medication far too much now, what the hell did people do before all of these things?

I agree 100%.

My only problem is with the hypocrisy of the athletic commissions, testing organizations, and boxing writers that act like one type of performance enhancing drug is evil whereas others are perfectly fine.

Just be honest and admit that you ban some for being "too effective". Whereas the sh#tty ones are fine because they don't work that well.

But they are ALL meant to be "performance enhancing".

[Bossy]

I agree 100%.

My only problem is with the hypocrisy of the athletic commissions, testing organizations, and boxing writers that act like one type of performance enhancing drug is evil whereas others are perfectly fine.

Just be honest and admit that you ban some for being "too effective". Whereas the sh#tty ones are fine because they don't work that well.

But they are ALL meant to be "performance enhancing".

I can agree with the bold.

As to the last sentence, I still don't see how every drug is performance enhancing when some are meant to maintain health and restore health.

[Bee Keepz]

This was put into play to benefit Amir Khan,clear as day.

Peterson CHEATED clear as day and forgot to tell officials...