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Brook gasses and he has a leaky defense but one thing he does have is really good power. I don't see Khan being able to take many of those hard right hands.Comment
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From the interviews after the fight with Brook, Hearn and Nelson it sounded like there were things in the camp which wern't right. You cut corners on training for a fight and you are gonna gas early..
Khan/Brook would be a great fight. Khan would be favourite for sure but Brook would be dangerous early.Comment
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I agree with the part about him killing himself to make the 135 limit and Precott, that night would have KO'd 90% of people.
Khan has definitely improved, how much is hard to say. He still looks very amateurish at times and his chin is well, suspect. I do think being under Roach is hindering him as he cannot defend well, he tries his Manny Pac imitations and its hurting him IMO. His footwork isn't there.
I don't think he has learned to roll with shots either. I think his conditioning and that Ariza really worked on building up his neck and leg muscles helped when getting caught by those big punches.
It's ridiculous how some people on here react to performances at times.
Before this fight, we all wondered whether Brook had the heart/chin to go in with the big boys. We all knew he was the **** domestically and that he was better than Euro level and this was going to be the "acid test".
Well we found out he had the heart and chin to last the distance, taking some big shots and a tremendous amount of pressure. Now (with the Amir Khan comparison in mind) how would he have held up under that sort of pressure? We've seen him struggle with that style of fighter.
Maybe we've seen the style that Brook struggles against. That's all.
He was great for the first 4/5 rounds and visibly gassed. He tried to become macho and he ended up fighting Jones fight. I'm not saying Jones is a great fighter but people look at those 8 losses and think he's worse than he is.
Jones IMO could become that "acid test" fighter, the one you need to come through before you step onto the big stage or find out how far away you are from the big stage.
Brook and his camp have now seemed to identify his weaknesses from that fight. Condition, defense and movement.
IMO Brook was vastly over-rated by some on here before hand and is now in danger of being vastly under-rated.
We'll see how good Brook is in his next couple of fights. But he's past the "acid test" IMO.
He's found out that he's not ready for a world title shot just yet. He maybe needs one/two fights to tweak the things that were wrong in this fight and then step up.
People need to not over-react to performances. People did it when Khan lost to Prescott and look how he's turned out (despite his flaws).
I'd love to see the match-up between Khan and Brook at Welter.
Khan's major advantage in that would be his speed (assuming he can carry it to 147). People who are pulling for Brook, I'm not sure. Khan struggles with pressure, could Brook fight that style and fight that style effectively?
I think at this point its a 50-50 fight.
**** people using "oh cause Brook struggled with Jones, Khan whoops him" or "oh Khan lost to Prescott, Brook smashes him". **** outta here with that ****.
Styles make fights.
Khan don't fight like Jones & Brook don't fight like Prescott.
Apologies for the rant lol.Comment
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Brook's defence is his reflexes, which were very good for the first 6 rounds. However reflexes start to fade when fatigue sets in, and coupled with the relentless pressure Jones was applying right throughout the fight (even in the first 6 rounds, Jones was tiring Kell by constantly walking him down) this opened Brook up to shots he's otherwise been able to avoid.
There are some key components Carson Jones possesses which Khan lacks. His physical strength is imposing, where Khan's isn't. He's able to walk opponents down and apply the type of pressure that Khan isn't. He was able to pretty much immediately recover from being hurt on several occasions, which Khan has not always been able to do.
This isn't to say that Khan doesn't give Brook problems of his own, with his combination punching and foot and hand speed, but this is a different set of problems from those which Carson Jones presented and therefore difficult to draw any hard and fast conclusions. And, of course, there are also questions over how Khan would deal with Brook's power and ability to pick accurate counter punches.
Whatever the case, it's a fight I wouldn't mind seeing and one that I suspect would be fairly competitive.Comment
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Rant ha more like an essay.
Just this little point though, we've seen how Khan has held up under that sort of pressure from a guy who's pressure fighting is x10 of that of Jones, Maidana. And even though the Argentine machine nearly took his head of in that 10th, fact of the matter is Khan survived.
The question is, how would Brook have held up under that sort of pressure(not talking about Maidana specifically just his style)?
Agree with your other part though that i think Brook was being overrated before this fight and now is probably gonna get underrated haha, funny way this forum works.Comment
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It should also be noted that there's a difference between a fighter who throws a lot of punches (Khan) and a fighter who's constantly walking you down and throwing a lot of punches (Jones)
Khan's an ambush type fighter who can overwhelm opponents with his volume, but you rarely see his opponents gassed out and hanging on like Brook was tonight, that was due to the constant pressure Jones was applying from rounds 1-12.Comment
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