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  • Joeyzagz
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    #11
    Wlad would be getting 25 million per fight like Tyson did if he was a worldwide superstar. Instead he makes as much as a 4th string welterweight like shane mosley.

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    • jbpanama
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      #12
      Hey Russ James, SHRIMP DI*K, U'd be an Idiot, but your IQ, isn't High Enough!!!
      Sig Heil, Maddertrucker!!!

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      • paulf
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        #13
        Originally posted by Russ James
        The K-Bros. aren't "neglected" in the US. The ***-dominated US major media outlets blackball them because they don't want White men to see other White men behaving in ways that are superior to non-Whites.
        I really hope you're tolling, but just in case; HBO has tried to push the Klitschkos to US fans time and time again, they never caught on. Especially now that they fight overseas. Don't you remember the big promotion HBO did leading up to Klitscho-Ibragimov? And what a disaster that fight was to watch?

        If you're augment was true, HBO wouldn't have been riding Artuo Gatti and Kelly Pavlik's nuts like crazy when they were champions.

        Thankfully, you are incredibly wrong and weird.

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        • nycsmooth
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          #14
          phenoms in a division void of talent...can't c these 2 beating, Homes, Ali, Foreman, or Lyle...

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          • Medved
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            #15
            Originally posted by Joeyzagz
            Wlad would be getting 25 million per fight like Tyson did if he was a worldwide superstar. Instead he makes as much as a 4th string welterweight like shane mosley.
            Umm, just off RTL Wlad makes more than Mosley ever made in his career.... they pack stadiums every 4 months and the have huge sponsorship deals with RTL and other companies...... just because its not in America doesnt mean anything. Or do they need to start flashing their cash and wasting it all?

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            • DeadLikeMe
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              #16
              Originally posted by Russ James
              The K-Bros. aren't "neglected" in the US. The ***-dominated US major media outlets blackball them because they don't want White men to see other White men behaving in ways that are superior to non-Whites.

              It's called Frankfurt School-style Cultural-Marxism. A group of ***ish communists, calling themselves the Frankfurt School fled Germany in the '30's after being chased out for causing great damage to the German people, their culture, and way of life.

              They came to America and announced that they were going to make "a long march through [our] institutions." After this take-over was complete they announced that they were going to destroy White resistance to ***-Dominant global tyranny by doing two things. First, they were going to introduce what they called "polymorphous perversity." In other words they were going to destroy the family unit by promoting libertine sexual mores. Concomitantly, they said they were going to "induce cultural pessimism in White males." In other words, they were going to deliberately strip White men and boys of their confidence.

              They further said they were going to do this by convincing the American population that women and non-Whites were physically, intellectually, and morally superior to White men. A main plank in this strategy was to fill the media, they had infiltrated and taken control of, with images of Negroes as superior athletes.

              You don't have to take my word for it. Go down to the "Judaica" section of any library or book store. They actively boast about how they've done this.

              OK censors, go ahead and delete this post now.
              So Jesse Owens was a ***ish robot?

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              • lefthook2daliva
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                #17
                Originally posted by Cloud
                I have nothing against Americans but it is usually them that say the division is dead.

                It isn't dead. It just isn't good. There are some better boxers coming up though IMO.

                The Heavyweight division has these lulls.


                The Klits usually win by knock out, but even so it's usually kind of a boring fight because the opposition is so poor.

                In Wlad's case it's even worse because should the fight begin to get even a little bit exciting he just hugs and puts his weight on the guy for enough rounds to exhaust him and then KO's him with a big right. Thanks Manny...

                Add to the above that we don't have a dog in the hunt nor even the credible prospect of one on the horizon.

                Finally, there is a well marketed (though far inferior, imo) combat sport alternative available.

                Though I wish it were otherwise, it's a tough sell to US audiences.

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                • devildg
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                  #18
                  they are unmarketable...Floyd has to dance, shuck and jive, rant about Pacquiao just to get attention. He gets big money thanks to the HBO hype machine but considerably bigger than someone like Gatti due to his superior ability. Imagine if Floyd was just a regular, boring white boy with no personality, he'd get the accolades on ESPN and major media, but he'd just be another Andy Rod**** in tennis, both popular guys but not as big or hyped as someone if they were a superstar in football, baseball or basketball.

                  The Klits excel at their division and dominate it. I think they could be bigger in America if they were of Polish descent like Golota who had a following. Or Italian due to the large Italian-American population. But being Ukrainian doesnt exactly help them in America.

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                  • sicko
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                    #19
                    I think it is actually Hilarious that on the outside of America looking in, people actually think Black Athletes get some type of Special Treatment in America because they are Black...THAT IS HILARIOUS especially if you live in America and you know the TRUTH

                    Nobody hates the Klitschko's because of their Pale Skin, people hate them in America because they are like the "Big Bad Russian In Rocky 4" and also the fact that the Klitschko's REFUSE TO SELL OUT TO THESE NETWORKS who wanted to give them a SMALLER CUT While only paying them a certain amount of money up front...unlike many Boxers who come from nothing in America and have no education so they depend on Managers they don't know and Lawyers they don't know...Klitschko's are very smart guys when it comes to business, when people can't capatilze and make money off of you, you become hated, that is why Mayweather is HATED SO MUCH because he is one of the few Americans who got smarter and relized that these Promotions and Networks Need Him A Lot More Then He Needs Them and that is when his Asking Price Skyrocketed and Network Works like HBO had/have no choice to give him what he wants because he Generates So Much

                    it is just like Fedor, because he too refuse to sell out to Zuffa and the UFC, he started getting bashed and a lot of his so called American Fans turned on him and start talking about how "BROCK LESNAR WOULD BEAT HIM" blah blah blah

                    Many of you are on the outside looking in obviously and your assuming the way things are in America without knowing for sure...but the Klitschko's are not big in American more so because in the eyes of many Ignorant Americans...the Klitschko's are "THE BIG BAD RUSSIANS WHO AMERICANS WERE TAUGHT TO HATE" its has nothing to do with the Color of their Skin...Many of the Cuban fighters will also find it hard to become stars in American too because of the NEGATIVE IMAGE Cuba has in America and because of the hate for Fidel Castro...Lennox Lewis was never really accepted in America either and he was Black so it goes beyond just "RACE"

                    Manny was accepted in America but you gotta understand that it is a lot of Filipinos in Certain Parts of America, same for Adamek who has built up a very nice fanbase on the East Coast in America but again it is a lot of Polish People in New Jersey, so America is not complete against anybody that is not American

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                    • jbpanama
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Russ James
                      @jbpanama,

                      Name-calling is always a sign of someone who knows he can't win the argument.
                      I never match witts, with folks that are UNARMED!!!

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