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  • #21
    Originally posted by Manny_P
    IMO Pac dint expect Morales to box at all. He thought Morales will fight the way he fights Barrera. Now that he knows Morales can box well too, I think Pac has a betta chance.

    The problem with that thinking is that Pac's boxing ability isn't anywhere near Morales'. Pacquiao *can* box, however he's not the greatest at it, and he doesn't like to do it.

    Morales is a far superior boxer/fighter, proving it last fight with a CLEAN victory of Pac. Unfortunately for Pac, Morales can box and slug, and has the chin to slug with Pac.

    This the a prime example of skill > over style, much like Mayweather and Gatti (bear in mind that I'm not comparing the fighters, just a point of reference).

    When it comes to picking fights, don't do the love thing...pick with your head, not heart.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Manny_P
      IMO Pac dint expect Morales to box at all. He thought Morales will fight the way he fights Barrera. Now that he knows Morales can box well too, I think Pac has a betta chance.
      If he didn't already know Morales could box then he must be thick.

      Morales's elite boxing skills are common knowledge and have been for years.

      A lot of you think all Pac has to do is change his game (ok it wouldn't hurt)but if I were to choose which boxer of the two has the most ability, skill, technique and pretty much more of an arsenal to work with , I'd choose Morales everytime, therefore I reckon what ever style pac tries to use Morales will counter it fairly easily.(just like last time)

      Pac only knows one way to fight, whereas Morales can adapt his style to beat him whatever he tries.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by druth
        The problem with that thinking is that Pac's boxing ability isn't anywhere near Morales'. Pacquiao *can* box, however he's not the greatest at it, and he doesn't like to do it.

        Morales is a far superior boxer/fighter, proving it last fight with a CLEAN victory of Pac. Unfortunately for Pac, Morales can box and slug, and has the chin to slug with Pac.

        This the a prime example of skill > over style, much like Mayweather and Gatti (bear in mind that I'm not comparing the fighters, just a point of reference).

        When it comes to picking fights, don't do the love thing...pick with your head, not heart.
        Pac dint expect that Morales WILL BOX Pac. Simple as that. Pac expected a war and he was confident that he can beat Terible if it goes to that.

        Roach dint expect that neither. Now that they saw Morales' 2 sides, Im sure Roach and Pac will come up with something to penetrate Morales' boxing stance.


        Morales aint the best boxer Pac has faced neitha. Ledwaba and Marquez are cleaner boxers than Morales and Pac managed to beat them (Pac got robbed gainst Marquez).



        Pac will beat Terible IMO becuz he now knows what TO EXPECT from Morales, and Pac is really focused comin to this fight.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by kerrminator
          If he didn't already know Morales could box then he must be thick.

          Morales's elite boxing skills are common knowledge and have been for years.

          A lot of you think all Pac has to do is change his game (ok it wouldn't hurt)but if I were to chose which boxer of the two has the most ability, skill, technique and pretty much more of an arsenal to work with , I'd chose Morales everytime, therefore I reckon what ever style pac tries to use Morales will counter it fairly easily.(just like last time)

          Pac only knows one way to fight, whereas Morales can adapt his style to beat him whatever he tries.

          Morales aint known for his boxing skills. He's recognized as the guy who loves WARS. He brawls wit anybody he fights. Chi, Barrera, Hernandez, Chavez etc........

          Marquez is a cleaner boxer than he is and Ledwaba who Pac beat is a cleaner boxer than he is.



          Pac came in the last fight thinking FIGHT/BRAWL. It dint really go to that. It was a countering fest from Morales wit his jab and straight hand. He dint BRAWL wit Pac and his excessive use of his jabs prove this.



          Pacquiao has beaten other BOXERS befo becuz he expected that from them. Pac dint expect Morales to BOX so he lost. Morales wit his recent 5-6 fights brawled wit his opponent. THAT's WHAT PAc EXPECTED.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Manny_P
            Morales aint known for his boxing skills. He's recognized as the guy who loves WARS. He brawls wit anybody he fights. Chi, Barrera, Hernandez, Chavez etc........

            Marquez is a cleaner boxer than he is and Ledwaba who Pac beat is a cleaner boxer than he is.



            Pac came in the last fight thinking FIGHT/BRAWL. It dint really go to that. It was a countering fest from Morales wit his jab and straight hand. He dint BRAWL wit Pac and his excessive use of his jabs prove this.



            Pacquiao has beaten other BOXERS befo becuz he expected that from them. Pac dint expect Morales to BOX so he lost. Morales wit his recent 5-6 fights brawled wit his opponent. THAT's WHAT PAc EXPECTED.
            I couldn't disagree more if I tried

            Morales is a excellent boxer with loads of tools in his arsenal and great ringcraft

            He is one of the finest boxers in the world.

            Perhaps your confusing him with Barerra, who likes to go to war but can box too if he puts his mind to it, usually he prefers the latter though.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by kerrminator
              I couldn't disagree more if I tried

              Morales is a excellent boxer with loads of tools in his arsenal and great ringcraft

              He is one of the finest boxers in the world.

              Perhaps your confusing him with Barerra, who likes to go to war but can box too if he puts his mind to it, usually he prefers the latter though.
              Morales' BEST BOXING performnce was gainst Pac and he dint even dominate him.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Manny_P
                Morales' BEST BOXING performnce was gainst Pac and he dint even dominate him.
                lol Your cracking me up heehee

                I suppose the pope's a protestant aswell hee hee

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Manny_P
                  Pac dint expect that Morales WILL BOX Pac. Simple as that. Pac expected a war and he was confident that he can beat Terible if it goes to that.

                  Roach dint expect that neither. Now that they saw Morales' 2 sides, Im sure Roach and Pac will come up with something to penetrate Morales' boxing stance.


                  Morales aint the best boxer Pac has faced neitha. Ledwaba and Marquez are cleaner boxers than Morales and Pac managed to beat them (Pac got robbed gainst Marquez).



                  Pac will beat Terible IMO becuz he now knows what TO EXPECT from Morales, and Pac is really focused comin to this fight.

                  Ok listen, I'm going to make this very simple for you.

                  Don't make excuses for your fighter. You're acting as a fan, not a knowledgable boxing fan.

                  Freddie Roach is a great trainer, one of the best out there. He knew Morales could box, and Pacquiao knew it as well. If he didn't, then that's a terribly ill-prepared fighter.

                  Pac didnt' adjust the entire fight. It was the same: Jab cross Jab cross Jab cross. Morales knew it, expected it, and dealt with it in grand fashion.

                  Using your logic, Morales should greatly out-point/TKO Pac within 7 rounds. You said Pac knows what to expect now, if anything, it's the other way around.

                  Pac doesn't have the defensive skills to beat a fighter like Morales. JMM was a fluke. Watch the fight, and JMM wins 8 out of 12 rounds EASILY . Morales is too slick, too strong and most importantly, too smart for him.

                  Sorry Pinoy boys, it's the truth.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by druth
                    Ok listen, I'm going to make this very simple for you.

                    Don't make excuses for your fighter. You're acting as a fan, not a knowledgable boxing fan.

                    Freddie Roach is a great trainer, one of the best out there. He knew Morales could box, and Pacquiao knew it as well. If he didn't, then that's a terribly ill-prepared fighter.

                    Pac didnt' adjust the entire fight. It was the same: Jab cross Jab cross Jab cross. Morales knew it, expected it, and dealt with it in grand fashion.

                    Using your logic, Morales should greatly out-point/TKO Pac within 7 rounds. You said Pac knows what to expect now, if anything, it's the other way around.

                    Pac doesn't have the defensive skills to beat a fighter like Morales. JMM was a fluke. Watch the fight, and JMM wins 8 out of 12 rounds EASILY . Morales is too slick, too strong and most importantly, too smart for him.

                    Sorry Pinoy boys, it's the truth.
                    Here here

                    well said, its good to hear another voice of reason.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by druth
                      Ok listen, I'm going to make this very simple for you.

                      Don't make excuses for your fighter. You're acting as a fan, not a knowledgable boxing fan.

                      Freddie Roach is a great trainer, one of the best out there. He knew Morales could box, and Pacquiao knew it as well. If he didn't, then that's a terribly ill-prepared fighter.

                      Pac didnt' adjust the entire fight. It was the same: Jab cross Jab cross Jab cross. Morales knew it, expected it, and dealt with it in grand fashion.

                      Using your logic, Morales should greatly out-point/TKO Pac within 7 rounds. You said Pac knows what to expect now, if anything, it's the other way around.

                      Pac doesn't have the defensive skills to beat a fighter like Morales. JMM was a fluke. Watch the fight, and JMM wins 8 out of 12 rounds EASILY . Morales is too slick, too strong and most importantly, too smart for him.

                      Sorry Pinoy boys, it's the truth.

                      I don't wanna start callin you an idiot, but I think someone should.

                      Pac in the 1st 4 rounds showed amazing mix off pinches. Hook to the body, jabs to the body, staright punch to the body. Pac was landid his right hook as well on Morales. Even at round 12, Pac landed his right hooks wit great accuracy. PLEASE, don't talk to me if you dint watch the fight.

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