Comments Thread For: Chavez vs Martinez HBO PPV Media Tour Announced

[PBFP4P]

since you wanted to be ambiguous with your response and not give a real answer only to follow it up with an nonsensical question ill play along. He asked for testing because this is someone who has already proven cant be trusted because he was already caught. Sergio knew this and asked for testing.

Im a firm believer in the mayweather mantra of Hardwork and skills paying bills i believe that Martinez is a real champion. He is just not beating Chavez without OST period. He knows it and he also knows that a he wouldnt get a big payday ever without cashing himself out.

Lets just go by parts of your argument.

1. Asking for testing doesn't mean anything. Look at Peterson and Berto.

2. Why do you believe that Martinez himself isn't doping?

3. Why do you believe that Martinez can't beat Chavez without OST? And, do you honestly believe that he believes he can't beat him?

4. How did Martinez get this far in his career without OST?

5. If I take roids can I beat Martinez.

[DefThatGuy]

Mathed how is Arum cashing out Chavez, Chavez gets to keep breaking the rules and taking whatever he wants. Martinez should have just said no thanks and kept on fighting other people. If arum were cashing out chavez he would tell him to take the OST so he would lose.

[mathed]

I can respect you guys for supporting Chavez because of who he is and his heritage but the facts are the facts....face them or not, Martinez is licking his chops right ow.

[PBFP4P]

I can respect you guys for supporting Chavez because of who he is and his heritage but the facts are the facts....face them or not, Martinez is licking his chops right ow.

I don't support. But, I'm not ****** enough to believe that anybody can just take roids and beat Martinez. I mean if that is true. Then Martinez was really overrated.

[mathed]

I know it just goes to show how much hatred they have for him. its just cuz hes Mexican and sucessful. All these other reasons are just excuses to **** on him. Watch if he beats Martinez they will say he was too big or was roiding. yet no one questions Martinez's late career surge. how could a guy who got whooped by margarito become 3rd best p4p past the age of 35?

Brah,.......what late career surge you talking about? He hasn't lost in like 11 years (besides the convenient Williams loss). He is getting knock outs because he has moved up in weight and carried his speed and developed power. I don't like Chavez because the dude got gift decisions, got caught cheating, avoids drug tests. People like him because he is the son of a legend...that's it, the SON OF A LEGEND. He ain't a legend himself.

People act like Martinez is an American or something, whatever, the dude is p4p#3 in the world, Chavez is no where to be found, there is a reason for that.

[mathed]

I don't support. But, I'm not ****** enough to believe that anybody can just take roids and beat Martinez. I mean if that is true. Then Martinez was really overrated.

It's just funny....Sergio is cashing himself out now....what about the last 3 years he has been chasing this guy while he has avoided fighting Martinez? Was Sergio trying to cash himself out then too?

Martinez is going to go into this fight trying to end Chavez' career...i wish the young buck all the luck in the world, he is gonna need it.

[DefThatGuy]

1.
Innocent until proven guilty i wanted Sergio to stand his ground and make chavez take the test or fack the fight.
2.
Innocent until proven guilty. if he takes the test then fails hes a cheat but i havent seen anything from martinez that triggers my spider sense.
3.
Hardwork skills and in martinez's case awkward fighting style would give Chavez trouble. plus a guy thats been busted already and just about everything associated with Arum and pacquiao avoiding OST has riggered my spider sense.
4.
hes won some and lost some (bad judging too) once again. hes just a good fighter

5.
Id have to see you but at least hes willing to take a test unlike chavez


Mathed
I dont respect Chavez for running from the test. I really dont respect Martinez from backing down when he knows just as much as anyone else that this kid is fishy has a history and still takes the fight. Sergio sold himself on this one period.

[DefThatGuy]

One more thing its not just roids its diuretics to help him make weight.

[PBFP4P]

1.
Innocent until proven guilty i wanted Sergio to stand his ground and make chavez take the test or fack the fight.
2.
Innocent until proven guilty. if he takes the test then fails hes a cheat but i havent seen anything from martinez that triggers my spider sense.
3.
Hardwork skills and in martinez's case awkward fighting style would give Chavez trouble. plus a guy thats been busted already and just about everything associated with Arum and pacquiao avoiding OST has riggered my spider sense.
4.
hes won some and lost some (bad judging too) once again. hes just a good fighter

5.
Id have to see you but at least hes willing to take a test unlike chavez


Mathed
I dont respect Chavez for running from the test. I really dont respect Martinez from backing down when he knows just as much as anyone else that this kid is fishy has a history and still takes the fight. Sergio sold himself on this one period.

1. Your answer has nothing to do with the point. Asking for testing means nothing. Look at Peterson and Berto

2. What did you see in Peterson, Toney, Chavez(when he got caught), Salido, and Tarver that "triggered your spider senses"?

3. So wait, can Martinez beat Chavez or not without OST? Donaire, promoted by Arum, Pinoy like Pac. Donaire is doing year round testing starting July 8and is not even asking his opponents to do the extra testing.

4. But, if fighting without OST means that he will lost. How did get so far in his career without it?

5. Fine, can Matt Vanda take roids and beat Martinez?

And, to your comment to Mathed. How do you know Martinez isn't doping himself? How do you know he sold out in this one? How do you know how serious he was about the test? He could very well be roiding. And, that would make it a fair even fight. Level the playing field.

[DefThatGuy]

Peterson Berto only got caught because they were tested. You cant get busted ever if you arent even willing to take it