Why not JMM against Josesito Lopez @ 140lbs?

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  • Picazo
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    #21
    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
    I don't think so,JMM does not do well with boxers bro check his history..Lopez style is all wrong for JMM...
    Lopez does not have the skill to use the length he has effectively against Marquez. He has a size advantage and I see him taking the punches well but that's about it.. JMM solves him

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      #22
      Originally posted by Picazo
      Lopez does not have the skill to use the length he has effectively against Marquez. He has a size advantage and I see him taking the punches well but that's about it.. JMM solves him
      You maybe right,I like JMM so I would hope for that...But I just don't see it,and at this point do you believe JMM would even risk this fight??It's a tough style that might beat him bro..He(Lopez)showed a lot of toughness and grit,Juan is not the hardest fighter to hit either..I think it's just a bad match up for him..I say he fights Timmy or Pac,no need to take a risk with a kid like this...

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        #23
        Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
        You maybe right,I like JMM so I would hope for that...But I just don't see it,and at this point do you believe JMM would even risk this fight??It's a tough style that might beat him bro..He(Lopez)showed a lot of toughness and grit,Juan is not the hardest fighter to hit either..I think it's just a bad match up for him..I say he fights Timmy or Pac,no need to take a risk with a kid like this...
        Oh most definitely no need to take that fight.. Lopez doesn't do anything for JMM at this point in his career. I do see he's durable and has a good left hook but he's also doesn't have the best defense and tends to be repetitive with his attack.

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          #24
          Because Lopez beats the brakes off of Marquez, that's why.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Bushbaby
            Because Lopez beats the brakes off of Marquez, that's why.
            Which Lopez we talkin bout lol... The dude who was beat by Vargas and about to get stopped last saturday won't beat JMM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Picazo
              Which Lopez we talkin bout lol... The dude who was beat by Vargas and about to get stopped last saturday won't beat JMM.
              Listen kid, I too love Marquez, but we have to keep it real. (Well actually we don't), but I will anyway.

              Marquez is old, he's 5-6 & he's been hurt by Juan Diaz.

              Lopez is 5-10. He's capable of standing up to the Ortiz assault. Make no mistake Ortiz still has top 10 welterweight power every fighter included.

              Lopez is too rangy, too young & too hungry for an old Marquez who should not be above 135. It's ok to love & respect Marquez, but he isn't invincible & there are plenty of fighters that beat him, just not Pacman.

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                #27
                At this point, JMM should hold on for a possibly last fight with Pac.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Bushbaby
                  Listen kid, I too love Marquez, but we have to keep it real. (Well actually we don't), but I will anyway.

                  Marquez is old, he's 5-6 & he's been hurt by Juan Diaz.

                  Lopez is 5-10. He's capable of standing up to the Ortiz assault. Make no mistake Ortiz still has top 10 welterweight power every fighter included.

                  Lopez is too rangy, too young & too hungry for an old Marquez who should not be above 135. It's ok to love & respect Marquez, but he isn't invincible & there are plenty of fighters that beat him, just not Pacman.
                  TBH this is how I see it as well..But I don't want to talk ill of Marquez,who imo is a great fighter and a legend...

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Bushbaby
                    Listen kid, I too love Marquez, but we have to keep it real. (Well actually we don't), but I will anyway.

                    Marquez is old, he's 5-6 & he's been hurt by Juan Diaz.

                    Lopez is 5-10. He's capable of standing up to the Ortiz assault. Make no mistake Ortiz still has top 10 welterweight power every fighter included.

                    Lopez is too rangy, too young & too hungry for an old Marquez who should not be above 135. It's ok to love & respect Marquez, but he isn't invincible & there are plenty of fighters that beat him, just not Pacman.


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                    i'm not sure i dont think marquez can beat this kid, but it would be a very rough fight. a tall guy with good stamina and a chin and heart like lopez would be a long night for marquez. his legs at his age wont get him inside quickly, and lopez will be too long to get countered often. i think lopez would keep him on the end of his punches. marquez would have to fight a perfect fight. he'd need to slip punches, get close enough to land his combinations, and then get out safely so he can rest and control the pace. a bad cut at 38 could end his career. he'd be almost 40 by the time he made his way back into the ring. pacquiao may be retired. where are his other big fights? if he can land the fight he can beat manny pacquiao.
                    do you guys understand how much he risks fighting lopez?

                    "the best should fight the best, bla bla bla, i dont get it."

                    this is a fight that looks good if you're a fan.. that's why the fans pay money to watch these guys and the promotors get paid to watch them.

                    fighting lopez right now would be a bad move for marquez and his people. your fights are a finite quantity when you're a 38 year old lightweight. they harder they are, the fewer you can have. you're in this game to make money if you're a promotor OR a fighter.

                    if you arent fighting a top flight guy for serious money you should be fighting a no hoper

                    you arent going to make much more money fighting lopez than you are fighting these cabbies. you're risking your multi million dollar payday.
                    it's a no brainer. take a tune up.


                    fighters have always taken tune ups.
                    Last edited by New England; 06-27-2012, 08:55 AM.

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                    • Bushbaby
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
                      TBH this is how I see it as well..But I don't want to talk ill of Marquez,who imo is a great fighter and a legend...
                      Rome & New England, we love the guy, no doubt about it. There is only 1 fight that matters for Marquez. A big, young, strong, prime hungry fighter like Lopez is far from that. But these boxing fans need to understand that Marquez in reality should not be fighting over 135.

                      Face 1sr brawlers down there hurt him. Big 5-10, rangy fighters like Lopez are detrimental. I agree with New England fight a no hoper until arum is fully ready to cash in on the Pacman name. With Marquez it's the polar opposite of say...........a fighter like ginger. Who gets massive props for being protected from jump. While Marquez labored in the shadows of the great Morrales & Barrera before out doing both against Pacman.

                      Lopez is too much for a 40 year old Marquez & while I don't like to talk bad bout him, it's the damn truth & I won't sugar coat it just because.

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