Jessie Vargas or Floyd Mayweather: Who beat the tougher opponent?

Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • D4thincarnation
    Undisputed Champion
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Jan 2011
    • 16198
    • 533
    • 260
    • 133,240

    #1

    Jessie Vargas or Floyd Mayweather: Who beat the tougher opponent?

    On the 17th of September last year both Floyd Mayweather and Jessi Vargas fought on the same card in Vegas.

    Floyd was headlining fighting Victor Ortiz and one of his fighters that he promotes Jessie Vargas fought Josesito Lopez.


    Floyd took a reported $40 million from that fight Lopez on $100k.

    But who took on the tougher opponent?

    From what I seen of both fighters, I have no doubt that not only did Vargas take on the the tougher opponent but also the more skillful opponent.

    Can anyone really disagree?

    Poll Coming!!!
    45
    Jessie Vargas
    31.11%
    14
    Floyd Mayweather
    68.89%
    31

    The poll is expired.

  • 4Corners
    Nothing But Sunshine
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Jul 2011
    • 14441
    • 485
    • 83
    • 25,167

    #2
    Ortiz at that moment was a much much much tougher opponent. This is a classic D4 troll thread. Ortiz at that time, was #2 WW and WBC WW champ.

    Comment

    • LeG00N
      All Time Great
      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
      • Apr 2011
      • 20386
      • 1,081
      • 1,364
      • 25,738

      #3
      okay i'll play along

      Lopez > Ortiz

      SD > Sucker punch


      which means Vargas beat the better man and in a more impressive fashion

      Comment

      • bojangles1987
        bo jungle
        Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
        • Jul 2009
        • 41118
        • 1,326
        • 357
        • 63,028

        #4
        That is a great way to look at just how funny it is that Ortiz lost to Lopez. Lopez was on the undercard of a PPV he was in the main event of, that same guy just broke his jaw and made him quit.

        Comment

        • D4thincarnation
          Undisputed Champion
          Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
          • Jan 2011
          • 16198
          • 533
          • 260
          • 133,240

          #5
          Originally posted by 4Corners
          Ortiz at that moment was a much much much tougher opponent. This is a classic D4 troll thread. Ortiz at that time, was #2 WW and WBC WW champ.
          Seems like you judge fighters on paper, I judge them by what they do in the ring.

          How can anyone think that Ortiz is the tougher fighter.

          I said all along Victor was overrated, far too open, punches too wide, squares up, doesn't have the heart and temperament.

          Lope on the other hand, full of heart great chin, great temperament, great combos.

          Much tougher, this shouldn't even be an argument.

          Comment

          • Hougigo
            Gossip Girl
            Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
            • Sep 2011
            • 38755
            • 730
            • 236
            • 47,223

            #6
            Originally posted by bojangles1987
            That is a great way to look at just how funny it is that Ortiz lost to Lopez. Lopez was on the undercard of a PPV he was in the main event of, that same guy just broke his jaw and made him quit.
            Vargas>Lopez
            Lopez> Ortiz
            Vargas is better than Ortiz and Lopez is better than Berto
            Ahhhh, good old triangle theory

            Comment

            • D4thincarnation
              Undisputed Champion
              Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
              • Jan 2011
              • 16198
              • 533
              • 260
              • 133,240

              #7
              Originally posted by MANIAC310
              okay i'll play along

              Lopez > Ortiz

              SD > Sucker punch


              which means Vargas beat the better man and in a more impressive fashion

              Also shows how overrated Bertoid was.

              Amazing how Floyd can make so much money from fighting C class fighters.

              Comment

              • The Big Dunn
                Banned
                Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                • Sep 2009
                • 69275
                • 9,488
                • 7,834
                • 287,568

                #8
                Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                Seems like you judge fighters on paper, I judge them by what they do in the ring.

                How can anyone think that Ortiz is the tougher fighter.

                I said all along Victor was overrated, far too open, punches too wide, squares up, doesn't have the heart and temperament.

                Lope on the other hand, full of heart great chin, great temperament, great combos.

                Much tougher, this shouldn't even be an argument.
                So you base your judgement of Ortiz and Lopez on a night in Sept 2011 based on how they fought each other in June 2012?

                Comment

                • The Big Dunn
                  Banned
                  Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 69275
                  • 9,488
                  • 7,834
                  • 287,568

                  #9
                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                  Also shows how overrated Bertoid was.

                  Amazing how Floyd can make so much money from fighting C class fighters.
                  Ahhh now we get to the heart of this thread. D4th is mad that floyd gets more for fighting C class fighters than Manny does.

                  Comment

                  • bojangles1987
                    bo jungle
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 41118
                    • 1,326
                    • 357
                    • 63,028

                    #10
                    Originally posted by hougigo
                    Vargas>Lopez
                    Lopez> Ortiz
                    Vargas is better than Ortiz and Lopez is better than Berto
                    Ahhhh, good old triangle theory
                    The lesson here is that Andre Berto sucks. No triangle theories needed to know that.

                    Also, Jesse Vargas=GOAT. It's a scientific fact.

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    TOP