Jessie Vargas or Floyd Mayweather: Who beat the tougher opponent?

[Rocky Rode]

Pacquiao 147lbs
Martinez 154lbs
Cotto 154lbs
Lara 154lbs
Alvarez 154lbs


And serriously Lopez would have given Floyd a tougher fight on that night than Ortiz and would have still been there at the final bell.

Pacquiao was coming off a May fight. No way in hell would he have been able to fight in September. He fights once every 6 months.

Martinez was already signed to fight Darren Barker in October.

Cotto was still with Top Rank and already had the Margarito fight signed. I think it was originally supposed to take place in the summer/fall but got pushed back to December.

Lara would bring literally nothing to the table. No fans. No belts. NOTHING.

And no way in hell was Golden Boy going to make Alvarez-Mayweather this early in Canelo's career. He was and still is way too inexperienced for Mayweather.

Ortiz was the best option available.

[D4thincarnation]

Lol weren't you saying that Ortiz would "destroy" Bradley?

Who beat the better opponent on 17 Sept and 9 June?

Not me bro, you must be confusing me with someone else.

Always though Bradley would beat Ortiz.

[johncods]

Definitely Vargas. Floyd needed a sucker punch to beat ortiz to.

[D4thincarnation]

Its gonna be a sad day if Floyd and Manny ever does get signed. Gonna be weird watching the Pac stans discredit their god...

Thats gonna be crazy. I imagine alot of alts will be out and about during that time.

There is a master thread where you can discuss this, go there.

[D4thincarnation]

Definitely Vargas. Floyd needed a sucker punch to beat ortiz to.

Didn't even break his jaw, even with the sucker punch.

[Rocky Rode]

He is a southpaw ofcourse his right hook is going to be short.

He ****s his hand so far back sometimes you can see his punches a mile away, and leave himself so open.

Victor had good power and speed, can throw some decent combos, but his game is full of flaws. He is OK being the bully but when he is bullied he breaks.

His game is full of flaws. We all know that. He drops his hands way too much and gets tagged too easily. He's a mental midget who doesn't know how to respond to adversity.

But he doesn't have wide punches. He has solid technique, good speed, and great power.

[D4thincarnation]

Pacquiao was coming off a May fight. No way in hell would he have been able to fight in September. He fights once every 6 months.

Martinez was already signed to fight Darren Barker in October.

Cotto was still with Top Rank and already had the Margarito fight signed. I think it was originally supposed to take place in the summer/fall but got pushed back to December.

Lara would bring literally nothing to the table. No fans. No belts. NOTHING.

And no way in hell was Golden Boy going to make Alvarez-Mayweather this early in Canelo's career. He was and still is way too inexperienced for Mayweather.

Ortiz was the best option available.

From a business point of view, lots of money for an easy fight, then yeah, good move from Floyd.

From a fans perspective, no there were so many other fights that would have made a better contest before Ortiz.

But as long as the fans are fooled by hype and image this trend will continue.

[Rocky Rode]

From a business point of view, lots of money for an easy fight, then yeah, good move from Floyd.

From a fans perspective, no there were so many other fights that would have made a better contest before Ortiz.

But as long as the fans are fooled by hype and image this trend will continue.

What fights are those? I've already explained how the only fight that might've been possible was Lara-Mayweather, but Lara was coming off a draw against Molina which many people think he lost. I don't see how that would've been considered a better fight.

[Frank Ducketts]

Pacquiao, Khan, Ortiz...they've all quit or were concussed at one point during their careers.

[D4thincarnation]

What fights are those? I've already explained how the only fight that might've been possible was Lara-Mayweather, but Lara was coming off a draw against Molina which many people think he lost. I don't see how that would've been considered a better fight.

Fights get signed months in advance and if Floyd would have went to Martinez or anyone else, those fights get signed.

But none of this changes the fact that Lopez is a tougher fight than Ortiz.