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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: “Fighting Words” – In Defense of Victor Ortiz

    by David P. Greisman - If our greatest heroes are those whose surplus of heart makes up for their deficiencies in talent, then it makes sense that our greatest villains shouldn’t be their opponents, but rather those whose surplus of talent can’t make up for their deficiencies in heart.

    It would make sense, then, to celebrate the failings of Victor Ortiz.

    It would make sense to look at his latest loss, to watch a fighter decide he no longer wanted to fight, to see him quit on his stool, to know that he had given up both on this fight and the fight that would have followed — a return to a pay-per-view main event, a shot at redemption and a guaranteed payday.

    Nothing is guaranteed when it comes to Victor Ortiz.

    It would make sense that he would falter again, to be his own worst enemy in an enterprise where the man standing across from him should be enemy enough.

    His first loss, in 2005 against Corey Alarcon, came in a fight he was clearly winning before the opening round was over, only for him to hit Alarcon illegally on a break and lose by disqualification.

    His second loss, in 2009 against Marcos Maidana, came in a fight in which he had put his opponent down three times in the first two rounds, but also went down twice himself — once in the opening round and once in the sixth. He quit, then, too, rising from the canvas but refusing to go on. [Click Here To Read More]
  • Primera
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    inb4 internet tough guys claiming they would have kept fighting with a broken jaw, despite the reality of them crying on their knees from a broken finger

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    • Redd Foxx
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      #3
      I'd like to think that Ortiz can come back and reach great heights but the guy keeps proving me wrong.

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      • bronxrican23
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        Ortiz should run marathon's. He doesn't quit in those. Just give up quitter'tiz. Dirty fighter that quits is no good. U had one good fight (Berto) but that's it.

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        • Kagami Taiga
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          #5
          great article. but the one group u neglected to thin about are those like slightly dazed above me and myself. those who keep believing in the guy only to get smacked with disappointment. whether he had a legit injury to his jaw or not, its hard to keep expecting big things from a guy who always finds a way to lose even when he clearly shouldnt. its just disappointing. altho im sure hes more disappointing in himself than his fans are in him. thats a battle for him to fight tho, and this time its gonna be all the more harder.

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          • jaded
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            #6
            Good read...dammm...Larry Olubamiwo had more drugs in him than Ronnie Coleman.

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            • lefthook2daliva
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              #7
              Originally posted by Primera
              inb4 internet tough guys claiming they would have blahblahblahblah...
              Ortiz has lost my business.

              But he is a tough mfker.

              He has nothing to prove.

              Carry on...

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              • Rapid Counter
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                #8
                Originally posted by bronxrican23
                Ortiz should run marathon's. He doesn't quit in those. Just give up quitter'tiz. Dirty fighter that quits is no good. U had one good fight (Berto) but that's it.

                Same post, different thread.

                You need some new material son

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                • noStylez
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                  #9
                  He needs to learn to move his head.
                  Lopez was hitting him at will.

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                  • raf727
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jaded
                    Good read...dammm...Larry Olubamiwo had more drugs in him than Ronnie Coleman.
                    Lol, honestly though not a chance he did. People competing for the Olympia spend about 150,000 + on AAS, HGH, etc.


                    And I believe Larry admitted to taking those all since 2006, not that he was running all that gear together, though people do weird ****. One guy I work with runs 2 + grams(yes GRAMS) of Test, 700 mg of Tren, Masteron, plus god knows what else each week. Dirty game we're in.

                    Also the drug that Tarver was taking, Masteron, is almost always run with other stuff and there is no way it was accidental.

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