who has the better chance at an upset

[immortal tech]

da f**k?
Martinez might not even be a betting favorite leading up to this fight

Maybe if there is whole lot of suckers who want to put their money on Chavez Jr then Martinez won't be the betting favorit
the only way JCC wins is if the fix is in and then again this is a Toprank event so you never know

[Light_Speed]

Chavez just because he'll be a lot bigger than Martinez on fight night.

[Run]

Is it just me,

Or is there something really funny about Ortiz in a sombrero.



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[Run]

Maybe if there is whole lot of suckers who want to put their money on Chavez Jr then Martinez won't be the betting favorit
the only way JCC wins is if the fix is in and then again this is a Toprank event so you never know

Man you guys overrate the living hell out of Martinez.

You'll be amazed at how his 1 punch and admire doesn't work



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[110110110]

Just because JR beat a weight drained, no power,gassing toothpick man dossent mean he beats sergio martinez.

Dont get things twisted Sergio is a highly advanced fighter with legit KO power and he is a proven champion.

There is a reason why Floyd and manny avoids him or why the KO`ed his last 4 apponents that all where better fighters the andy lee.

[Run]

Just because JR beat a weight drained, no power,gassing toothpick man dossent mean he beats sergio martinez.

Dont get things twisted Sergio is a highly advanced fighter with legit KO power and he is a proven champion.

There is a reason why Floyd and manny avoids him or why the KO`ed his last 4 apponents that all where better fighters the andy lee.

Jr is 12 years younger, undefeated and just coming into his own as a prizefighter after not having an amateur background............whereas Martinez might be totally suspect against a rough house fighter that uses sheer physical strength/will/size against him.

I think it's a matter of perception here.

And I don't think anyone has their picks twisted............but I do think people have been absolutely psycho about Martinez simply because of what he did to Paul Williams.



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[memento126]

Ortiz should win Canelo hasn't done ****, Sergio will ko the silver spoon in late rounds. After that so called megafight of the silverspoon kids are done.