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  • #11
    Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
    Thats just it, USA ppv is secondary to mexican TV for these fights. Both fights combined will do less than a floy or a manny fight IMO anyway. I think moving forward, this is the 1st stage in canelo/chavez competition to be the most popular mexican fighter.

    Eventually, when these two fight in Azateca its going to be ****ing unbelievably big!
    Well Alvarez is already well n his way to being a star, and Chavez is as well in his own right. If Chavez manages to beat Martinez though, his career will really take off.

    Alvarez-Chavez will happen probably at 168 in like 4-5 years or so. Alvarez will eventually go that high in weight, and Chavez will probably stay at 168 for awhile once he gets there.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by 4Corners View Post
      Well Alvarez is already well n his way to being a star, and Chavez is as well in his own right. If Chavez manages to beat Martinez though, his career will really take off.

      Alvarez-Chavez will happen probably at 168 in like 4-5 years or so. Alvarez will eventually go that high in weight, and Chavez will probably stay at 168 for awhile once he gets there.
      Maybe. But JCC was adamant about not signing a TR extension. SO win or lose against Sergio, the money fight for JCC has always been Canelo in Azteca. He will sell ok in the US but not on the floyd level or the manny level. I'm thinking slightly more than Cotto, same for Canelo.
      with all the hype jcc/canelo could be the biggest fight in Mexican history!

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      • #13
        Early days in the poll , but if I was Schaefer I would be looking to move Alvarez vs Ortiz pronto.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
          Early days in the poll , but if I was Schaefer I would be looking to move Alvarez vs Ortiz pronto.
          why? both Canelo and Ortiz are bigger names then Chavez JR and Martinez here in the states

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Phenom View Post
            why? both Canelo and Ortiz are bigger names then Chavez JR and Martinez here in the states
            Do you think Boxingscene is representative of boxing fans?

            If so, then you should agree GBP should move their fight or get stomped in the PPV buys.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
              Do you think Boxingscene is representative of boxing fans?
              NO absolutely not.

              BTW I also think Martinez vs Chavez is slightly better main event but I think Alvarez vs Ortiz is more competitive fight if I had to pay for either it would be Canelo vs Ortiz which will end up selling more based on name recognition
              Last edited by Phenom; 06-18-2012, 12:43 PM.

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              • #17
                martinez and alvares are two fighters i always look forward to watching regardless of who they are fighting.

                in this case i prefer martinez' fight, bcuz of the back and forth between him and chavez and how long we been waiting for this fight. and even though ortiz beat better oposition i think higher of chavez, the **** ortiz pulled against floyd was embarassing. perhaps the most unproffesional behaviour i ever seen in a boxing ring and this is his first fight back.

                also the fact that ortiz and alvarez were both scheduled for better fights recently that fell through, them fighting eachother is like consolation fight. good but not nearly as good as the original matchups which takes some shine off it. meanwhile martinez-chavez is a fight i wanted to see for a long time but didnt think would ever happen.

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                • #18
                  chavez jr has been in entertaining fights and martinez has had entertaining fights himself but with his style and chavez style this is a cant miss match up

                  i expect ortiz to knock or tko canelo out. i dont understand the hype around canelo. for some reason he is viewed as being elite at 154 but he has not faced anyone. i could be wrong and if canelo win i believe it will be in canelo fashion. meaning it will be a boring fight in which he fights in spurts. instead pressing the issue.

                  ortiz vs canelo because of ortiz style more than likely it will be entertaining

                  but martinez vs chavez jr is almost guranteed fireworks

                  then you also add to the fact that chavez jr is considered the ticket seller and he is going in against the top guy the king of the middleweight division

                  in the ortiz vs canelo fight. you have canelo doing the usual. fighting another undeserving challenger. ortiz is a good fighter and world ranked AT 147lbs

                  Dont get me wrong the ortiz fight is a very good fight but im all in on martinez vs chavez jr

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                  • #19
                    Easily Martinez Chavez but i want blood testing involved

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                    • #20
                      Chavez Jr-Martinez is the more competitive fight, especially since there will most likely be no type of drug testing. Ortiz will fold, I could see him pulling a weird stunt and he still doesn't have a jab, Canelo should stop him in the mid rounds.

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