Chavez Jr. Vs. Top SMWs

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  • RapidFire26
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    #11
    Originally posted by ksan
    He will do well,

    His style is tailor made for beating bigger and taller fighters is the Mexican Fajador Style


    And those guys at the SMW division haven't fight versus an artist in the body punching department like Chavez, Lee never fought one till Chavez, and we know what happen yesterday.

    The bigger guys in boxing neglect body punching, and they dont have the experience to fight it.


    Bigger body... bigger tree for EL CASHCOW THE DINERO VACA SUPERBEASTO JR. to chop down!
    I believe guys like Chavez who have a history of drainging tons of weight to make a certain weight class typically don't do as well when they move up as their power does not translate as well.

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    • RichCCFC
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      #12
      Originally posted by ksan
      He will do well,

      His style is tailor made for beating bigger and taller fighters is the Mexican Fajador Style


      And those guys at the SMW division haven't fight versus an artist in the body punching department like Chavez, Lee never fought one till Chavez, and we know what happen yesterday.

      The bigger guys in boxing neglect body punching, and they dont have the experience to fight it.


      Bigger body... bigger tree for EL CASHCOW THE DINERO VACA SUPERBEASTO JR. to chop down!
      he struggled to beat Zbik, Sturm who has been average lately and arguably lost his last 2 fights crushed him. He's improving every fight but if he was to fight guys his own size he wouldn't have any edge at all, most of those guys are way more skilled than him.

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      • jayjames616
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        #13
        Originally posted by RapidFire26
        Kessler ain't soft from what I have seen. Soft fighters aren't able to beat Froch or come close to beating him if you feel that the judges wer wrong.
        Soft fighters quit when the fight starts getting rougher than expected. Kessler quit fighting in the Ward fight and I can see him doing it again. The doc stopped the fight in the 11th but Kessler quit much earlier than that.
        Last edited by jayjames616; 06-17-2012, 01:36 PM.

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        • ksan
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          #14
          Originally posted by RichCCFC
          he struggled to beat Zbik, Sturm who has been average lately and arguably lost his last 2 fights crushed him. He's improving every fight but if he was to fight guys his own size he wouldn't have any edge at all, most of those guys are way more skilled than him.
          Yes he struggle vs Zbik, that's why I believe his 2 most dangerous fights at SMW are Ward and Kessler, guys smaller than him, his fajador style doesn't translate to well versus smaller fighters height wise, and with skills.

          The good thing about Ward is that he likes to mix it up on the inside, and he will try to show everyone he's better on the inside than Chavez, that could give Chavez some hope in the fight.

          And versus Kessler, he has a more European style so Chavez could eventually force the fight on the inside if the avoids the straights of Kessler.

          And about the size, well Chavez will be 190 plus pounds on SMW, more than when fights at MW, and his style will do the work, getting on the inside ****ing the body and mixing it up with some hooks and uppers. That kind of fight will be very dangerous for fighters like Bute and Dirrell.

          The Froch fight is a toss up I say, Froch can do everything, but he will be fighting on the inside vs Chavez, Froch is to macho to outbox Chavez, and it will a 50/50 fight vs a 190 pounds Chavez (and of Course first I want Chavez to fight Martinez winning or losing so he can get more experience to fight the "skill" SMW's)

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          • ksan
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            #15
            Originally posted by RapidFire26
            I believe guys like Chavez who have a history of drainging tons of weight to make a certain weight class typically don't do as well when they move up as their power does not translate as well.
            Well history is that history... Chavez has been improving his punching power with every fight, and I believe with a healthy camp, without looking like a WWII refugee before the day of the fight, he will be an even better puncher, but that's just me, we shall wait and see what happens, but first the Martinez fight, I can't wait.

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            • STEELHEAD
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              #16
              wow! so all of a sudden joke jr after taking a legitamit step up and beating lee. is considered worthy of fights against the elite???

              who is lee? lee is two steps below martinez,ward etc.
              this has to be a joke thread .

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              • RichCCFC
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                #17
                yeah people need to settle down here, people go crazy after KOs and TKOs.. skill wise he is just not up there.

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                • ksan
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by `STEELHEAD
                  wow! so all of a sudden joke jr after taking a legitamit step up and beating lee. is considered worthy of fights against the elite???

                  who is lee? lee is two steps below martinez,ward etc.
                  this has to be a joke thread .
                  It's not just for the Lee fight, we have been watching his progress, and in every fight he gets better, I already talked about him giving problems to some fighters on the SMW division since the Zbik fight, Zbik is more quick that many of the SMW's so Chavez will have already tasted fighters with much better speed that many at SMW, and that will be very important in those fights.

                  And after dominanting a very tough Rubio, it was a matter time to make some comparisions.

                  I really want him to fight Martinez, winning or losing, Martinez will be excellent to prepare him for the "skill" guys at SMW

                  Also Chavez will be fighting the SMW's at 195 lbs

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                  • STREET CLEANER
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by mushahadeen
                    The same people claiming JCC JR would lose to Sergio or Froch or Kessler are the same ****** morons that thought Andy Lee, MAB, etc. actually had a chance.

                    FACT: Andre Ward is the only fighter from 154-168 that poses any challenge whatsoever.
                    You have been posting crap like this for a while. I refuse to believe that you are serious. You must be trying to get a rise out of ppl

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                    • ИATAS
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                      #20
                      The top SMW? no chance. none. In fact, Sakio Bika would likely beat him.

                      That isn't to say Chavez isn't a good fighter, just sayin 168 is very, very skilled.

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