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  • #71
    As much I dislike Roach he made the right call ****kkk lees request.the commison already inspected the gloves no need to prove crap to Lee,

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    • #72
      Originally posted by doninlouisiana View Post
      Gito,
      I know exactly what fight he is talking about, I saw every round live. I understand it was just his opinion but it just touched a nerve but its cool I have said a few things off the wall that were opinions also. I just hope as fans we get to see a great fight (war) and both fighters come out healthy
      I agree with every thing you said bro, lets hope and pray that we get the war we want . Im going with lee on this one, no bets just rooting for him.

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      • #73
        As easy as it is to weigh gloves, Roach is right : if they don't have to do it then they shouldn't do it. It's psychological warfare, the opponent's team is trying to get an edge by making you do something you don't wanna do. The texas commission is shady but I don't expect Chavez team to actually bring lighter gloves or gloves that have been tampered with, the repercussions for getting caught would be devastating to his career.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Light_Speed View Post
          As easy as it is to weigh gloves, Roach is right : if they don't have to do it then they shouldn't do it. It's psychological warfare, the opponent's team is trying to get an edge by making you do something you don't wanna do. The texas commission is shady but I don't expect Chavez team to actually bring lighter gloves or gloves that have been tampered with, the repercussions for getting caught would be devastating to his career.
          Getting caught would be devastating to his career?

          Devastating like popping positive in a post fight drug test right? The answer to that is just don't do it.

          If the gloves were tampered with and the other team wants to weigh them, the answer to that is just don't do it.

          These guys aren't a part of a secret society. These guys aren't engineers. They're not rocket scientists. I think people give guys like Roach and Chavez Jr too much credit for being "smart".

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          • #75
            Andy Lee is so disrespectful. The El Dinero de Vaca is putting Lee's children and grandchildren through University.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Light_Speed View Post
              As easy as it is to weigh gloves, Roach is right : if they don't have to do it then they shouldn't do it. It's psychological warfare, the opponent's team is trying to get an edge by making you do something you don't wanna do. The texas commission is shady but I don't expect Chavez team to actually bring lighter gloves or gloves that have been tampered with, the repercussions for getting caught would be devastating to his career.
              Yeah laying gloves on a scale for 5 seconds is psychological warfare. LOL What a bunch weak ass minded fans Boxing has now today.
              Roach and Chavez are protected by the slimiest and most powerful promoter in Boxing - Bob Arum. Do you not realize that? Texas is one of the ****iest and shadiest places to have a fight in. Arum who can basically buy off Las Vegas judges, you don't think he can buy off the weak ass Texas Athletic Commission officials that supervise Chavez's corner? Come on! Get real.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
                Getting caught would be devastating to his career?

                Devastating like popping positive in a post fight drug test right? The answer to that is just don't do it.

                If the gloves were tampered with and the other team wants to weigh them, the answer to that is just don't do it.

                These guys aren't a part of a secret society. These guys aren't engineers. They're not rocket scientists. I think people give guys like Roach and Chavez Jr too much credit for being "smart".
                Getting caught using PEDs and getting caught with tampered gloves are apples and oranges. The former doesn't have the same kind of stigma that's attached to the latter. Margarito's reputation and legacy was permanently tainted while Mosley was still one of the most loved fighters even after he got popped. And diuretics aren't even PEDs, it's an entirely different situation than messing with gloves or handwraps. They wouldn't taint the Chavez name like that.

                Originally posted by EdMon917 View Post
                Yeah laying gloves on a scale for 5 seconds is psychological warfare. LOL What a bunch weak ass minded fans Boxing has now today.
                Roach and Chavez are protected by the slimiest and most powerful promoter in Boxing - Bob Arum. Do you not realize that? Texas is one of the ****iest and shadiest places to have a fight in. Arum who can basically buy off Las Vegas judges, you don't think he can buy off the weak ass Texas Athletic Commission officials that supervise Chavez's corner? Come on! Get real.
                I take it you've never been involved in any sort of boxing competition? Those of us who have know what the deal is. Opposing teams argue over the smallest details and everybody tries to get an edge. I've seen trainers go nuts because the other fighter refused to step on the scale a second time when it would have taken like 3 seconds. Why? Because you're not supposed to let the enemy dictate anything, you do what you have to do and nothing more.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Light_Speed View Post
                  I take it you've never been involved in any sort of boxing competition? Those of us who have know what the deal is. Opposing teams argue over the smallest details and everybody tries to get an edge. I've seen trainers go nuts because the other fighter refused to step on the scale a second time when it would have taken like 3 seconds. Why? Because you're not supposed to let the enemy dictate anything, you do what you have to do and nothing more.
                  Yes I have. I take it you underestimate the situation at hand. This is not just another regular fight anyone has. This is Julio Cesar Chavez JR we are talking about. He has been popped for Diuretics he has been easily given a championship belt by Jose Sulaiman and he has been given favorable decisions by judges. This man has his way in Boxing and has connects in the Boxing world. He works with Freddie Roach, his biggest name is accused of using PEDs. He worked with James Toney when he got busted. He works with Bob Arum the slimiest promoter in Boxing who God knows how much disgusting things he has done in the world of Boxing. Something as simple as wearing 8 oz gloves to a 10 oz glove fight can be the edge these guys are looking for. They weren't asking for Chavez to step on the scales again or for extra testing. Trust me when they asked to see if they can weigh their gloves it wasn't to get a physcologial edge on their opponents and it shouldn't have been taken as one. This isn't amateur Boxing or some dinky undercard fight with two unknowns that little things can be overlooked.
                  Last edited by EdMon917; 06-15-2012, 08:45 PM.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by EdMon917 View Post
                    Yeah laying gloves on a scale for 5 seconds is psychological warfare. LOL What a bunch weak ass minded fans Boxing has now today.
                    Roach and Chavez are protected by the slimiest and most powerful promoter in Boxing - Bob Arum. Do you not realize that? Texas is one of the ****iest and shadiest places to have a fight in. Arum who can basically buy off Las Vegas judges, you don't think he can buy off the weak ass Texas Athletic Commission officials that supervise Chavez's corner? Come on! Get real.
                    Once again why would you not want to remove doubts unless there is a reason for concern? HMMMMMM?

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                    • #80
                      I would threaten not to fight if I were Lee, and I wouldn't have weighed my gloves first either.

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