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  • #51
    Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
    What does Ariza mean by "bounce back" and "dropping fast; changing back and forth"??

    What I got from Ariza's comments are Pac has come in dehydrated before. If that's the case, then that means Pac has had to cut weight before, probably from 156 pound+ to make his weigh in of 144; thus proving my claim that Pac can go up in weight to 154 if he really wanted.

    On the day of the weigh ins Pacquiao would have breakfast but not take on enough fluids.

    This time round he was carrying a couple extra litres on board.

    I doubt he will be over 150lbs in the ring tonight.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
      I agree with the bold.
      If Bradley is B level Ortiz is C level

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      • #53
        Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
        If Bradley is B level Ortiz is C level
        I don't get into grading fighters.

        Both Ortiz and Bradley are very good fighters. I'm more talking about accomplishments at 147.

        Ortiz beat Berto; Bradley beat Abregu.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
          I don't get into grading fighters.

          Both Ortiz and Bradley are very good fighters. I'm more talking about accomplishments at 147.

          Ortiz beat Berto; Bradley beat Abregu.

          Bertoid, was overrated and gave Ortiz a tough fight despite just sitting on the ropes for most the fight.

          Bradley beat Abregu convincingly.

          A sick Peterson out boxed a Ortiz.

          Bradley destroyed a fit Peterson.


          Bradley > Ortiz

          Bradley is No.8 p4p

          Ortiz is lucky if he makes the top 75

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          • #55
            Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
            I don't get into grading fighters.

            Both Ortiz and Bradley are very good fighters. I'm more talking about accomplishments at 147.

            Ortiz beat Berto; Bradley beat Abregu.
            Are you trying to make a case that Ortiz is better in any way or form then Bradley?

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            • #56
              Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
              On the day of the weigh ins Pacquiao would have breakfast but not take on enough fluids.

              This time round he was carrying a couple extra litres on board.

              I doubt he will be over 150lbs in the ring tonight.
              I'm talking about Ariza saying Pac has had to cut weight in the past.

              This came out of Ariza's mouth. There's no getting around the fact that Pac has cut weight.

              He clearly says this in the article.

              Now I've heard Stewart mention Manny had to eat the day of the fight, but I've never heard Ariza say this. Which is weird because why would Pac cut "weight fast" like Ariza put it, only to try to put back on the weight that they cut in the first place?

              All in all, I think the eating before the weigh in comments that some have said was a distraction/smoke screen to give validation for catchweights (145lb/150lb).

              Fact of the matter is when it comes down to it, Pac could've made 147 and 154 a long time ago. He's been cutting weight this whole time, but wants people to believe he's so weak and vulnerable entering the fight.

              Kind of like Chun Li from Street Fighter. You wouldn't think she was a beast until she went upside your head 8 times in the first second of the fight.
              Last edited by BoxingGenius27; 06-09-2012, 12:46 PM.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
                Are you trying to make a case that Ortiz is better in any way or form then Bradley?
                At 147, I thought that was clear as day.

                Remind me again of what Bradley has proved at 147?

                Then remind me of what Ortiz proved.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by ny123 View Post
                  Fans and promoters always make excuses if a great draw loses a fight. I didnt see any excuses in this particular article.
                  Ariza said: "Physically I "think" he's ready." Ariza is leaving it open for an excuse with that comment. But, all in all, I don't see lots of excuses either.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
                    I'm talking about Ariza saying Pac has had to cut weight in the past.

                    This came out of Ariza's mouth. There's no getting around the fact that Pac has cut weight.

                    He clearly says this in the article.

                    Now I've heard Stewart mention Manny had to eat the day of the fight, but I've never heard Ariza say this. Which is weird because why would Pac cut "weight fast" like Ariza put it, only to try to put back on the weight that they cut in the first place?

                    All in all, I think the eating portion that some have said on the day of the weigh in weigh in was a distraction/smoke screen to give validation for catchweights (145lb/150lb).

                    Fact of the matter is when it comes down to it, Pac could've made 147 and 154 a long time ago. He's been cutting weight this whole time, but wants people to believe he's so weak and vulnerable entering the fight.

                    Kind of like Chun Li from Street Fighter. You wouldn't think she was a beast until she went upside your head 8 times in the first second of the fight.
                    Well it wouldn't be the first piece of ***** to come out of Ariza's mouth.

                    All Pacquiao did was not take on fluids before the weigh in, that could be what Ariza was referring to

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                      Bertoid, was overrated and gave Ortiz a tough fight despite just sitting on the ropes for most the fight.

                      Bradley beat Abregu convincingly.

                      A sick Peterson out boxed a Ortiz.

                      Bradley destroyed a fit Peterson.


                      Bradley > Ortiz

                      Bradley is No.8 p4p

                      Ortiz is lucky if he makes the top 75


                      Berto was on the ropes because Ortiz was keeping him there. Ortiz would knock Bradley the **** out!!!!!

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