Why did a fight between Johnny Tapia and Mark Johnson never happen? who would win?

[Roman Moreno]

Tapia ducked Johnson just like Mayweather is ducking Khan. When you're a big name fighter, guys calling you out comes with the territory, but you're not obligated to fight every guy out there, especially when they're not a big draw or even compete in your division. If Johnson was frustrated with the lack of big name fighters at flyweight, he should have moved up earlier and established himself in the higher divisions. He would have likely gotten a high ranking and would have been in line for a title after a few fights, but instead of doing so, he chose to wait until a vacant title was made available.

Well your credibility is shot...

Good God man, GTFOH.

Johnson was going to move up to fight Tapia. No reason to move up for a guy that is ducking you. Especially when you're also trying to get a fight with the likes of Carbajal and Chiquita. You move up, you still get ducked by Tapia and now you really are too big for Carbajal and Chiquita cuz' if they don't want it at 110 they would want it less at 115.

[Caxcan]

Well your credibility is shot...

Good God man, GTFOH.

Johnson was going to move up to fight Tapia. No reason to move up for a guy that is ducking you. Especially when you're also trying to get a fight with the likes of Carbajal and Chiquita. You move up, you still get ducked by Tapia and now you really are too big for Carbajal and Chiquita cuz' if they don't want it at 110 they would want it less at 115.

Not really. Johnson was a talented fighter no doubt, but people go overboard with claims of how all the non-flyweights were blatantly ducking him during his days at flyweight. They claim that Lopez ducked him, even though they were several divisions apart throughout their careers. They claim that Chiquita ducked him because he didn't move up to face him, even though Johnson didn't even hold a world title at the time. They claim that both Romero and Tapia ducked him when they were Super Flyweight champions, even though those guys did the right thing by unifying titles while Johnson didn't actually establish himself at that weight until after they had moved up.

[DeadLikeMe]

The fact that so many people can remember him still even though he fought in an irrelevant weight class should be a testament to how popular Johnson was. He was really damn popular, so I don't know where the idea he was relatively unknown is coming from.

[Kagami Taiga]

The fact that so many people can remember him still even though he fought in an irrelevant weight class should be a testament to how popular Johnson was. He was really damn popular, so I don't know where the idea he was relatively unknown is coming from.

just fans trying to justify the fact that he was one of the more avoided fighters in boxing at the turn of the century.

[therealpugilist]

just fans trying to justify the fact that he was one of the more avoided fighters in boxing at the turn of the century.

he was sadly

[FirePunch]

People can say that the word "duck" gets thrown a lot...And, that might very well be true.

But, Tapia blatantly ducked Johnson...Finito also didn't want it. Neither did carbajal or Chiquita at a catchweight of 110. Top Rank straight up said no to those fights.

Finito was a dream match but the negotiations never got far. And, the weight-class was an issue as well...That wasn't a duck.

Right because the guy that was knocked out by marquez was feared right ?

I guess his win over lacierva made him boxing most feared man lmao

******s i tell you

[RubenSonny]

Tapia ducked Hamed?






JMM turned down 400K to fight Hamed back in 2000...Nacho said it wasn't "worth it" and didn't have the "energy, after the negotiations". JMM said he needed more time.

On a months notice...

[jrosales13]

Right because the guy that was knocked out by marquez was feared right ?

I guess his win over lacierva made him boxing most feared man lmao

******s i tell you

Yes because the 98 version of Too Sharp at 112-115 is the same version of the 2002 at 118.

He was avoided before the Lacierva fight.

And, lets ignore that a way past prime Johnson beat an undefeated Montiel at 115 in 2003. So lets not act like he wasn't damn good.

******s I tell you.

[jrosales13]

Not really. Johnson was a talented fighter no doubt, but people go overboard with claims of how all the non-flyweights were blatantly ducking him during his days at flyweight. They claim that Lopez ducked him, even though they were several divisions apart throughout their careers. They claim that Chiquita ducked him because he didn't move up to face him, even though Johnson didn't even hold a world title at the time. They claim that both Romero and Tapia ducked him when they were Super Flyweight champions, even though those guys did the right thing by unifying titles while Johnson didn't actually establish himself at that weight until after they had moved up.

He was going to move down to fight Chiquita, it was going to be at a catch-weight of 110. Johnson wasn't asking for Chiquita to move up 112. Chiquita didn't wanted it...Tapia team didn't wanted it...They just didn't want to fight Johnson at any cost. They ducked him.

Nothing like the ****** example of Floyd and Khan.

[jrosales13]

On a months notice...

Meh, the fight was offered, JMM fought a week or two after what the Hamed fight would have taken place in.