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  • D4thincarnation
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    #81
    Originally posted by Roman Moreno
    So wait you're in the belief that Conte is part of VADA(he isn't BTW) and also works with fighters and other athletes, yet that agency isn't corrupt. You think a guy who was able to create drugs that could go undetected is not working with an anti doping agency and not be corrupt? Yet an agency that is under WADA could be corrupt? OK.
    Other agencies under WADA have found to be corrupt before.

    USADA is a private company, they are in the business of making money.

    Boxing is a big big fish for them, that could bring in a lot of money if they head up universal testing in boxing.


    I have no evidence that they are corrupt, they do seem a bit too pally with GBP and even Mayweather himself.



    VADA as well as shutting the loop hole with CIR testing, their tests for HGH and EPO are more advance and up to date.

    Hair testing is the way forward, they need to phase out blood testing.

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      #82
      Originally posted by Roman Moreno
      So wait you're in the belief that Conte is part of VADA(he isn't BTW) and also works with fighters and other athletes, yet that agency isn't corrupt. You think a guy who was able to create drugs that could go undetected is not working with an anti doping agency and not be corrupt? Yet an agency that is under WADA could be corrupt? OK.
      VADA is the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association, they test any athlete who volunteers to undergo strict and random drug testing. VADA is headed by Margaret Goodman MD and Victor Conte is an adviser.



      conte was dirty ...but what youre sayin about conte now is just opinion thats holds no weight...

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      • Roman Moreno
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        #83
        Originally posted by D4thincarnation
        Other agencies under WADA have found to be corrupt before.

        USADA is a private company, they are in the business of making money.

        Boxing is a big big fish for them, that could bring in a lot of money if they head up universal testing in boxing.


        I have no evidence that they are corrupt, they do seem a bit too pally with GBP and even Mayweather himself.



        VADA as well as shutting the loop hole with CIR testing, their tests for HGH and EPO are more advance and up to date.

        Hair testing is the way forward, they need to phase out blood testing.
        Like?

        And, for the rest of your post. If a guy that is known for creating drugs that can cheat the system be part of an agency while at the same time working with fighters and athletes. Than how can you NOT suspect that agency of something?

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        • D4thincarnation
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          #84
          Originally posted by Roman Moreno
          But, we do know that USADA did CIR for Floyd-Cotto. Which even Conte agrees with...That guy that you and Puga keep referring to BTW, agrees that USADA did CIR for Floyd-Cotto. He said it's the reason the high cost. Premium package I guess.

          We do know that VADA and USADA uses the same UCLA Olympic drug testing lab. So we know both agencies send their samples to the same place.

          And, we do know that BOTH VADA and USADA uses the same code and protocols as WADA.
          The same prohibited list.

          Xylocaine needs to be added to that list IMO

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            #85
            Originally posted by Roman Moreno
            Like?

            And, for the rest of your post. If a guy that is known for creating drugs that can cheat the system be part of an agency while at the same time working with fighters and athletes. Than how can you NOT suspect that agency of something?
            Conte should be banned from working in sport.

            He does not run VADA just advises them as he done with USADA in the past.

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            • Roman Moreno
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              #86
              Originally posted by puga
              VADA is the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association, they test any athlete who volunteers to undergo strict and random drug testing. VADA is headed by Margaret Goodman MD and Victor Conte is an adviser.



              conte was dirty ...but what youre sayin about conte now is just opinion thats holds no weight...
              What's an opinion?

              That he has created drugs be able to go undetected?

              That he works with fighters and athletes?

              That YOU said he is part of an agency that could/would test said fighters and athletes?

              Yea no way there would be any corruption there.

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                #87
                Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                The same prohibited list.

                Xylocaine needs to be added to that list IMO
                You know that doesn't affect me either way. You know I don't care for Floyd right? Just want to save you some trouble if you're thinking taking jabs at a juicer like Floyd affects me in anyway.

                Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                Conte should be banned from working in sport.

                He does not run VADA just advises them as he done with USADA in the past.
                So then you do agree that Conte "advising" VADA while working with athletes and fighters who are tested by VADA is NOT a good look and corruption could be there...Right?

                And, what agency under WADA was found under corruption?

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                • Luilun
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by mrcupide2
                  Dont question Mayweather's drug testing when Pacman refused random testing.

                  Mayweather passed olympic style drug testing but gets questioned??

                  Pacman refused random drug testing and people swear that he is clean?

                  COME ON NOW.

                  END TOPIC.
                  Lets see Pacqauio failed test 0 Floyd has failed 3 test that GBP is covering up go away Floyd groupie

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Roman Moreno
                    What's an opinion?

                    That he has created drugs be able to go undetected?

                    That he works with fighters and athletes?

                    That YOU said he is part of an agency that could/would test said fighters and athletes?

                    Yea no way there would be any corruption there.
                    that he is corrupt now...thats an opinion right there...

                    you asked if he is part of VADA, i said yes...

                    not counting him as a part of VADA is like not counting michael konz as part of team pacqauio...

                    i did'nt say corruption was not possible, ...corruption is possible in any organization, period!

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by leonthegee
                      Fans do what they do. They choose sides. I dont think ive ever said Manny is or was juicing (at least I cant remember off the top of my head). But when your team is linked to steriods in the past that will cast some doubts. Arizas been linked to PEDs in the past. Freddie Roach has trained multiple fighters that have tested positive for PEDs.

                      If you go back to the David Diaz fight and listen to Manny Steward and Jim Lampley pre fight their talking about Pac like his carreer is over. Remember this is 3 months after Pac v Marquez 2. You can ask how could Manny bounce back and recover from the Marquez fight so fast?
                      well, it's pretty onvious that you've sided with floyd's agenda

                      um, going from fighting marquez at 130 to fighting david diaz is like going from college back junior high. think a little.

                      and hbo talking about manny's career is over when he's was one of their top draws even then.. you lie more than arum bro.
                      Last edited by pnksntdead; 05-31-2012, 01:38 PM.

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