Is Manny Pacquiao the most overrated fighter of the past 25 years?

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  • Brother Jay
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    #361
    Originally posted by deadlikeme
    no amount of filipino netcafe love will ever justify pac's embarrassing fraudulent run over 135. Bradley will be his best win if he takes it.
    lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooo

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    • dde91
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      #362
      Its funny how most of you in here suck floyds ding a ling. Probably would if you were his cellmate. Pacquiao and floyd both have great careers. Its just bad to me that floyd retires and pac comes in and demolishes his opponents, (some were on floyds resume) then after floyd comes back its "this guy is overrated he fought fighters who would of lost to anybody" its bull**** to me. If you want to discredit pac's win over cotto dismiss floyds win. If you want to dismiss hattons win over hatton dismiss floyds. If you want to dismiss pacs win over mosley dismiss floyds, if you want to dismiss pacs de la hoya win, dismiss floyds. If you want to dismiss pacs win over marquez dismiss floyds. We just need these two to fight. And thats it.

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      • lacson
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        #363
        Originally posted by Brother Jay
        Oh because you say it is?

        Let's put it into a more simple format for your simple mind.

        1 - Manny has padded his record with 40 fights and he only has 59.

        2 - Manny campaign above 135lbs lacks any real substance whatsoever as it pertains to legacy and value.

        3 - Manny can only be compared to other greats of boxing's past and present IF AND ONLY IF one includes his campaign at WW and jrMW. If you take those farces away, Manny's entire legacy is predicated on his wins over Barrera and Morales. And most acknowledge that Pacquiao's WW and jrMW campaigns are marred by catchweights, rehydration clauses, winning one single title at a WW in a catchweight bout and winning one single jrMW vacant title against a cheater who was still banned at the time of the fight.


        I'm putting you to all your chips. Maybe you can address those three points that you claim are baseless. Maybe not. But if not, it'll just be another check that your asss couldn't cash and you will have confirmed that you're just another loud mouth.

        PS Even ***** produced the long form of his birth certificate because he's a man about his shit. He doesn't have to pretend to have integrity like you clearly do.
        You're a complete idiot. You should take some time out and learn what boxing is all about.

        You want him to fight named fighters at 16? When starting out as a pro? You're a complete waste of brain cells, boy!

        Imagine a guy who has never even had an amateur background, goes straight into the professional ranks and ends up at the top of the sport that even the 2nd p4p does not want to fight him. It's the stuff of legends.

        How many amateur fights did Mayweather need to get him ready for the professional ranks?

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        • Johnwoo8686
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          #364
          Originally posted by dde91
          Its funny how most of you in here suck floyds ding a ling. Probably would if you were his cellmate. Pacquiao and floyd both have great careers. Its just bad to me that floyd retires and pac comes in and demolishes his opponents, (some were on floyds resume) then after floyd comes back its "this guy is overrated he fought fighters who would of lost to anybody" its bull**** to me. If you want to discredit pac's win over cotto dismiss floyds win. If you want to dismiss hattons win over hatton dismiss floyds. If you want to dismiss pacs win over mosley dismiss floyds, if you want to dismiss pacs de la hoya win, dismiss floyds. If you want to dismiss pacs win over marquez dismiss floyds. We just need these two to fight. And thats it.
          You can't compare Floyd's wins over the guys you mentioned to Pac's wins. First, what is more important than who you fight is WHEN you fight them. Joe Fraziers win over Muhammed Ali is considered greater Trevor Berbick's win over Muhammed Ali. Why? Because Joe Frazier fought a fresher Ali. In almost all of the situations you mentioned Pacquiao fought these guys when they were coming off of lackluster performances, some hadn't had a convincing win in years. When Mayweather beat these guys ALL of them were coming off of dominating victories, no catchweights, and they were all current champions. Before the Marquez fight Pacquiao hadn't fought a current champion in years and we saw what happened. Bradley is going to be his toughest fight in while, and we'll see how he does.

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          • lacson
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            #365
            Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
            You can't compare Floyd's wins over the guys you mentioned to Pac's wins. First, what is more important than who you fight is WHEN you fight them. Joe Fraziers win over Muhammed Ali is considered greater Trevor Berbick's win over Muhammed Ali. Why? Because Joe Frazier fought a fresher Ali. In almost all of the situations you mentioned Pacquiao fought these guys when they were coming off of lackluster performances, some hadn't had a convincing win in years. When Mayweather beat these guys ALL of them were coming off of dominating victories, no catchweights, and they were all current champions. Before the Marquez fight Pacquiao hadn't fought a current champion in years and we saw what happened. Bradley is going to be his toughest fight in while, and we'll see how he does.
            Floyd makes Marquez fight him at a catchweight, then decides not to respect the catchweight agreed upon and comes in 2 lbs over.

            Floyd, instead of meeting Hatton at a middle ground catchweight decides to make him go all the way to welter and fight at Floyd's weight.

            What a complete moron you are...

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            • Reloaded
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              #366
              Originally posted by lacson
              Floyd makes Marquez fight him at a catchweight, then decides not to respect the catchweight agreed upon and comes in 2 lbs over.

              Floyd, instead of meeting Hatton at a middle ground catchweight decides to make him go all the way to welter and fight at Floyd's weight.

              What a complete moron you are...
              Jeeeezus I get sick of telling you fckn idiots about Hatton vs Floyd , they weighed 153 and 152 on the night , that is the same fckn weight Hatton was in all his biggest wins including KT , it was a WW title with JWWs fighting for it , GET IT !!!!!

              You ****** fanboy pricks talk boxing and dont know the first thing about it , if its not hype and in the media Pac fanboys are little boy lost that only understand hype , learn the dam sport !

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              • illwill112
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                #367
                Originally posted by lacson
                Floyd makes Marquez fight him at a catchweight, then decides not to respect the catchweight agreed upon and comes in 2 lbs over.

                Floyd, instead of meeting Hatton at a middle ground catchweight decides to make him go all the way to welter and fight at Floyd's weight.

                What a complete moron you are...
                Bro I feel your pain but once a ***** always a *****.

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                • CHOWWOKKA
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                  #368
                  Originally posted by lacson
                  You're a complete idiot. You should take some time out and learn what boxing is all about.

                  You want him to fight named fighters at 16? When starting out as a pro? You're a complete waste of brain cells, boy!

                  Imagine a guy who has never even had an amateur background, goes straight into the professional ranks and ends up at the top of the sport that even the 2nd p4p does not want to fight him. It's the stuff of legends.

                  How many amateur fights did Mayweather need to get him ready for the professional ranks?
                  Pacquiao had an amateur record...........



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                  • jaestix1
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                    #369
                    Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA
                    Pacquiao had an amateur record...........



                    pac-tards are are not real fans..... they don't know ***** about the sport tbh. 99.9999999999% of pac's fanbase consist of short, racist fa990ts who will disappear once he gets beat into retirement.

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                    • Rolaz
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                      #370
                      Pacman got all His Boxing Records and Accomplishments for anybody to examine it. Ask the Boxing Sportswriters why they have chosen him as Fighter of the Decade, FOTY, #1PFP, including Guinness World Record.

                      A Boxing Record is a Record, and that will be the basis of any future analysis.

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