Is Manny Pacquiao the most overrated fighter of the past 25 years?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #211
    Originally posted by Popovich
    I'm picking Bradley via UD.

    I asked you this because I see a lot of people who dislike Manny state that he will KO Bradley.

    I also see a reoccurring theme with all of Manny's fights in which posters, who are know Pacquiao haters, claim that Manny will steam roll his opponents and that they are all cherry picks (unless it's Floyd or Sergio).

    Now don't get me wrong, Pacquiao fans do the same thing when Floyd fights, but the topic I'm on his haters overrating Manny.

    Tim Bradley and others are good fighters and for someone to think he steamrolls them....yeah that's overrating Pacquiao....something I see a lot of Pacquiao haters doing every time Manny faces an opponent.
    WHy is it that you have to be a manny hater? WHy wouldn't you pick manny by KO? He's the much better fighter, a 5-1 favorite, Tim is moving up in weight. He doesn't have the reach or speed advantage.

    When did Tim Bradley become so great?

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      #212
      Originally posted by Popovich
      The problem with your response is that it's not that poster who has stated this but boxing insiders, writers and historians.

      They gave him the Fighter of the Decade Award. They are the ones that have let the boxing world know of his accomplishments.

      Now I hope you aren't delusional enough try to discredit them, just because they say something you don't wanna hear.
      Respectfully, You seem to be intentionally missing the point. I only questioned the overexaggerated statements from his fans. SO manny winning awards is fine with me. Those don't change the facts.

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        #213
        Originally posted by Big Dunn
        The reason so many people feel pac is overrated is epitomized in this post. Longer p4p#1 reign, more hall of fame wins, more hall of famers beaten are just not true. If manny's fans didn't spend so much time overexaggerating and lying about what he's done, then there wouldn't be any problems.

        Manny is a 1st ballot HOF'er no question. He has done things others haven't. But he isn't the best of his generation.

        how is it not true? how about you offer a boxing rebuttal instead of opinions & conjectures?

        prove me wrong.

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          #214
          Originally posted by Big Dunn
          Respectfully, You seem to be intentionally missing the point. I only questioned the overexaggerated statements from his fans. SO manny winning awards is fine with me. Those don't change the facts.
          Which are?

          Because unless I missed something, everything that poster stated was said by boxing writers etc as to why they regard Manny so highly.

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            #215
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            Respectfully, You seem to be intentionally missing the point. I only questioned the overexaggerated statements from his fans. SO manny winning awards is fine with me. Those don't change the facts.
            winning awards = facts moron.


            your opinions = not even worth more than moist excrement.


            RESUME WILL ALWAYS TRUMP OPINIONS & PERCEIVED TALENT & HYPOTHETICAL MATCHUP WINS.


            ALWAYS.

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              #216
              Originally posted by DTMB
              how is it not true? how about you offer a boxing rebuttal instead of opinions & conjectures?

              prove me wrong.
              You made statements that were simply untrue. Longer #1 p4p reign is ridiculous and you know it. Same for more hall of fame wins. He beat a given HOF'er like JMM multiple times. Each win was questioned by the same people who voted him fighter of the year, decade etcetc. So you overexaggerated.

              You gave opinions. When you give facts, then we can have a factual debate. As I said Manny is surely a 1st ballot HOF'er. Thats really all that matters.

              When it gets to ratings, its gonna come down to how you as an individual feel about his career.

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                #217
                Originally posted by DTMB
                winning awards = facts moron.


                your opinions = not even worth more than moist excrement.


                RESUME WILL ALWAYS TRUMP OPINIONS & PERCEIVED TALENT & HYPOTHETICAL MATCHUP WINS.


                ALWAYS.

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                  #218
                  Originally posted by DTMB
                  winning awards = facts moron.


                  your opinions = not even worth more than moist excrement.


                  RESUME WILL ALWAYS TRUMP OPINIONS & PERCEIVED TALENT & HYPOTHETICAL MATCHUP WINS.


                  ALWAYS.
                  Agreed. But examination of the resume is where we differentiate.

                  For example, I'm sure you would factually point out manny has won 8 titles in 8 different weight classes. I would factually point out he won 2 of those titles at a catchweight, and one of them against an opponent who was 1-1-1 at the weight. So for you as a manny fan, his JMW title is an accomplishment worth recognizing. For me, its an accomplishment that should be laughed at, considering he and Margs fought at 150 and their combined record at time of title fight above 147 lbs was 1-1-1.

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                    #219
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    You made statements that were simply untrue. Longer #1 p4p reign is ridiculous and you know it. Same for more hall of fame wins. He beat a given HOF'er like JMM multiple times. Each win was questioned by the same people who voted him fighter of the year, decade etcetc. So you overexaggerated.

                    You gave opinions. When you give facts, then we can have a factual debate. As I said Manny is surely a 1st ballot HOF'er. Thats really all that matters.

                    When it gets to ratings, its gonna come down to how you as an individual feel about his career.
                    so just as i suspected. You claim my facts were wrong yet you cant give a factual rebuttal.

                    AGAIN, POST FACTS & PROVE ME WRONG.


                    & lmfaaooo at that envy pic. Why would we be envious of floyd & his fans?

                    That's what you guys do.

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                      #220
                      Originally posted by Big Dunn
                      You made statements that were simply untrue. Longer #1 p4p reign is ridiculous and you know it. Same for more hall of fame wins. He beat a given HOF'er like JMM multiple times. Each win was questioned by the same people who voted him fighter of the year, decade etcetc. So you overexaggerated.

                      You gave opinions. When you give facts, then we can have a factual debate. As I said Manny is surely a 1st ballot HOF'er. Thats really all that matters.

                      When it gets to ratings, its gonna come down to how you as an individual feel about his career.

                      MAB = HOF
                      Morales = HOF

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