Comments Thread For: Juan Manuel Marquez Lays Down Terms For Pacquiao Bout

[Rico1965]

I thought he was better than that. The bottom line is this: JMM, you didn't do enough to win. You weren't convincing enough. You didn't have Pacquiao on the run. You didn't stagger him or knock him down. You weren't beating him to the punch. Your ring generalmanship wasn't anymore dominate than Manny's. And you're fighting the Champion. As far as Boxing goes back, unless it's very obvious, if all things are equal, or very close to equal, the champ gets the nod, they get the decision. JMM has had the same kind of victories. If you can't knock the champ down or out, and your efforts aren't clear cut who dominated, you don't win. So what you're saying JMM is you'd love to have the 4th fight in Mexico where you think the judges will help you win. You want to stack the deck in your favor, getting all the help you can get. Texas is close enough to Mexico you think you can get the same judge assistance. I didn't hear you say you'd like to fight Manny in Atlantic City? I didn't hear you mention fighting in Dubai, or Madison Square Garden. You don't payday fighting Erik Morales in Texas Stadium. The truth is you don't think you can beat him, then you have no shot for a 4th Pacquiao fight. Morales should be given another shot rather than JMM.

Excellent post Sir!

[The Tase]

I thought he was better than that. The bottom line is this: JMM, you didn't do enough to win. You weren't convincing enough. You didn't have Pacquiao on the run. You didn't stagger him or knock him down. You weren't beating him to the punch. Your ring generalmanship wasn't anymore dominate than Manny's. And you're fighting the Champion. As far as Boxing goes back, unless it's very obvious, if all things are equal, or very close to equal, the champ gets the nod, they get the decision. JMM has had the same kind of victories. If you can't knock the champ down or out, and your efforts aren't clear cut who dominated, you don't win. So what you're saying JMM is you'd love to have the 4th fight in Mexico where you think the judges will help you win. You want to stack the deck in your favor, getting all the help you can get. Texas is close enough to Mexico you think you can get the same judge assistance. I didn't hear you say you'd like to fight Manny in Atlantic City? I didn't hear you mention fighting in Dubai, or Madison Square Garden. You don't hear Manny asking to fight in the Phillipenes, to sway votes because he's a god there. The bottom line is JMM can't convincingly beat Manny. That's weak JMM. Why don't you quit crying for a 4th fight and go make a massive payday fighting Erik Morales in Texas Stadium. The truth is you don't think you can beat him, then you have no shot for a 4th Pacquiao fight. Morales should be given another shot rather than JMM.

absolutely brilliant post.

seriously, how can you claim you won WHEN THE SITTING CHAMPION, ARGUABLY THE BIGGEST STAR IN THE SPORT, OUT PUNCHES & OUT LANDS YOU & YOUR FACE IS IN A MUCH WORSE WRECK THAN HIS?

The only person that got robbed during the entire pac v marquez trilogy is Pacquiao who was robbed the first fight due to a public admitted scoring error by the offending judge.

[Phantomas]

Pacman is a religious person now, so "ego" doesn't mean anything to him.

Pac was asked in the post fight interview if he would give JMM a rematch. What is he supposed to say?

Arum is the one pushing for a fourth fight. Pac's fights always rely on Arum's input. Since Marquez's recent behavior has been pissing off Arum, ie, pricing himself out and rejecting Arum's offer to fight at the Cowboy's Stadium, JMM's plan for a fourth fight is in jeopardy.

I´m sorry but Pac said to Arum that he wanted Márquez again, despite what his fanboys think he knows he didn´t win that fight. Pac just wont let Márquez get away with three victories over him, it is understandable p@ct@rds don´t want a rematch because they don´t want their idol to get embarrassed again by the far superior boxer.

[al-Xander]

I´m sorry but Pac said to Arum that he wanted Márquez again, despite what his fanboys think he knows he didn´t win that fight. Pac just wont let Márquez get away with three victories over him, it is understandable p@ct@rds don´t want a rematch because they don´t want their idol to get embarrassed again by the far superior boxer.

No. No. No. Pacman never wanted a trilogy in the first place. Arum offered JMM as an alternative to the Floyd-fight gone kaput three years ago. Pac was reported to have said, "It will be the same outcome. It will be boring." Pacman picked Clottey. Besides, JMM price himself out again by demanding 50/50 and OST.

Long story short, Pacman hates fighting counter punchers, like most boxers do. They prefer fighting come-forward ones. Defensive fighters will ruin your career if you are a boxer. Froch was reported to be ruling out a rematch against Ward. He said Ward is boring.

Pacman was just trying to placate the butt hurt sore losers by promising a rematch.

Like I said, Pacman is into religion now. The word "ego" won't mean anything to him.

[Phantomas]

Just words, Arum wouldn´t risk pac against Márquez so many times just for fun. They don´t even need Márquez to make good money. Pac wants revenge from Márquez plain and simple and Jmm knows it, that is why he has been making such demands.

[al-Xander]

Marquez will always be the last person in Reverend Manny Pacquiao's mind, believe me. Pac already beat him twice, so he doesn't need revenge.

[CasualBoxingFan]

No. No. No. Pacman never wanted a trilogy in the first place. Arum offered JMM as an alternative to the Floyd-fight gone kaput three years ago. Pac was reported to have said, "It will be the same outcome. It will be boring." Pacman picked Clottey. Besides, JMM price himself out again by demanding 50/50 and OST.

Long story short, Pacman hates fighting counter punchers, like most boxers do. They prefer fighting come-forward ones. Defensive fighters will ruin your career if you are a boxer. Froch was reported to be ruling out a rematch against Ward. He said Ward is boring.

Pacman was just trying to placate the butt hurt sore losers by promising a rematch.

Like I said, Pacman is into religion now. The word "ego" won't mean anything to him.

Lol casualfan

Pacquiao looses to the great fighters with great boxing skills. Lost to Morales who was already passed it, And could've lost two times against JMM, and definitely lost the third, it was a darn JMM highlight reel lol, and Pacquiao didn't do *****, he was too scared to get countered.
If Manny only fights skill lacking comeforward fighters, then he's fake champ,champ takes all comers regardless of the style.

And keep religion out of this, this is boxing, one of the greatest legal sins.

[CasualBoxingFan]

These guys complaining are a joke, that dirty politician should've taken his loss like a man.

Getting ripped off in every fight, shi!t, i can't hate on Marquez for voicing his opinion, bunch thief's looking for a dollar. They keep taking of course you're going to get pissed off.

[Primera]

marquez won that's why 80%+ on hbo and here had marquez winning, so did the 19/20 insider officials and the various amount of boxers, even khan and max kellerman had marquez winning

Ring Magazine votes it "ROBBERY OF THE YEAR"

[al-Xander]

I thought he was better than that. The bottom line is this: JMM, you didn't do enough to win. You weren't convincing enough. You didn't have Pacquiao on the run. You didn't stagger him or knock him down. You weren't beating him to the punch. Your ring generalmanship wasn't anymore dominate than Manny's. And you're fighting the Champion. As far as Boxing goes back, unless it's very obvious, if all things are equal, or very close to equal, the champ gets the nod, they get the decision. JMM has had the same kind of victories. If you can't knock the champ down or out, and your efforts aren't clear cut who dominated, you don't win. So what you're saying JMM is you'd love to have the 4th fight in Mexico where you think the judges will help you win. You want to stack the deck in your favor, getting all the help you can get. Texas is close enough to Mexico you think you can get the same judge assistance. I didn't hear you say you'd like to fight Manny in Atlantic City? I didn't hear you mention fighting in Dubai, or Madison Square Garden. You don't hear Manny asking to fight in the Phillipenes, to sway votes because he's a god there. The bottom line is JMM can't convincingly beat Manny. That's weak JMM. Why don't you quit crying for a 4th fight and go make a massive payday fighting Erik Morales in Texas Stadium. The truth is you don't think you can beat him, then you have no shot for a 4th Pacquiao fight. Morales should be given another shot rather than JMM.

This right here ^^^^^^^^.

Obviously, you can't win them all. Half the population will keep saying JMM won when he clearly didn't. Least one can say is it's a draw; you can't clearly tell who won. But to say JMM won as if he won in a convincing fashion and in an angry, butt hurt, complaining manner...