calzaghe...why the hate/disrespect? who wins...ward vs a prime calzaghe???

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  • Flawless*
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    #21
    Would be surprised if Calzaghe won a single round

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    • Boxingwizard
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      #22
      Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
      Ward by a wide, wide margin. 117-111 type of fight.

      People give Joe valid criticism for fighting cans over a decade long stretch. Think about that for a second, over 10 years of fighting average guy's.
      I swear some people overrate Ward. He's good, but he's not great. Calzaghe is a great fighter, and a complete fighter, even though his style is somewhat odd. Ward wouldn't even be favored against Dawson.

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      • Box3r
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        #23
        Originally posted by gaz26
        who wins...a prime calzaghe vs andre ward???? how would froch fair against a prime calzaghe??? also why isn't calzaghe considered a super middle weight great by many???
        Calzaghe beats Ward due to Calazage’s work rate... Froch finds it hard to win against fighters who got excellent lateral movement.. I was never a Calzaghe fan but realized once he retired how good the guy was...

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        • Redd Foxx
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          #24
          I really like Ward and consider him the current #1 but Calzaghe would give him trouble. He has (or had) too much movement, doesn't get frustrated, doesn't tire, and his workrate is unsurpassed. Not to say it wouldn't be a tough fight, but I think Calzaghe is just a bad style for Ward.

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          • Heru
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            #25
            Calzaghe's an excellent fighter, he's better than he gets credit for and has an difficult style for his opponents'. Except for the lack of credit. the same can be said for Ward. Calzaghe and Ward are great at controlling range and pace, so whoever's able to impose their style on the other (for 7 out of 5 rounds) wins.

            I think Calzaghe wins the fight on the outside and pushes Ward back in the process, but eventually, Ward maneuvers himself consistently to the inside, roughs him up, and wins the majority of the rounds.

            Calzaghe receives plenty of hate because people like to hate on the next man and their success, they'll look for reasons to hate. In Calzaghe's case though, Joe did waste 8 years of his title reign, which can be almost infuriating for people (including myself) that want to see the best fight the best, but he closed his career strong by facing the best opponents (sans Chad Dawson) and retired. Good luck to him in his retirement

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            • edgarg
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              #26
              Originally posted by gaz26
              who wins...a prime calzaghe vs andre ward???? how would froch fair against a prime calzaghe??? also why isn't calzaghe considered a super middle weight great by many???
              I think it would be a sporting bet on Calzaghe against almost anybody except Roy Jones. He has the talent to turn it up and up as needed and is completely fearless. Not to mention he has a first class chin.

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              • edgarg
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                #27
                Originally posted by pturtle
                Ward dominates him, Kessler put up a good fight against Calzaghe, And Kessler is not even close to being on Wards level.
                Don't be so negative. Kessler put up a good fight for the first 4 rds only. Until Calzaghe figured him out and beat him decisively. He adapts excellently as needed

                And we didn't see him even near his peak, except through some youtube.
                Last edited by edgarg; 05-27-2012, 09:22 PM.

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                • Jerub Baal
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by gaz26
                  who wins...a prime calzaghe vs andre ward???? how would froch fair against a prime calzaghe??? also why isn't calzaghe considered a super middle weight great by many???
                  You should have made a poll with this thread.....

                  I would pay top dollar to see a Calzaghe Ward showdown, I don't know who would win - too close to call. But if I had to choose, I would go with Ward - his exceptional boxing skills would carry him through to a 12 rd decision....

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                  • rorymac
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Flawless*
                    Would be surprised if Calzaghe won a single round
                    I thought you were sensible????

                    Calzaghe should go down as one of the very greatest fighters of the era. Unorthodox? Yes, and some may also question his resume. Doesn't take away from the fact that he's probably one of the most adaptable boxers who ever lived. I do not think more than five fighters in history could match him for work rate either.
                    Last edited by rorymac; 05-27-2012, 09:34 PM.

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                    • gaz26
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Box3r
                      Calzaghe beats Ward due to Calazage’s work rate... Froch finds it hard to win against fighters who got excellent lateral movement.. I was never a Calzaghe fan but realized once he retired how good the guy was...
                      great comment!!! agree 100% though i watched nearly all his fights

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