What if Pavlik never dropped out of the Bute fight

[Danny Gunz]

I think if Pavlik came in in his normal shape he probably would have blasted Bute out of the ring. A big win over Bute would have been a huge boost for his career. It would also line him up with fights with Froch, Ward, Dirrell, etc.

This is obviously speculation who knows what shape Pavlik would have been in for the fight with his alcoholism. And it isn't a sure thing he would have beaten Bute, it just seems after the fight today Pavlik had a very winnable fight that he dropped out of for a very ****** reason.

Sorry haha, I always like playing the what if scenarios in boxing.

[climerset]

Ya i think he would have. But who knows every boxer have different style like Froch.

[-Lowkey-]

People need to give Froch respect and stop the if Froch can beat him so can fighter x, y, z fighter x, y, z didn't beat him Froch did.

I wouldn't be so sure it would have taken something special to beat Froch last night and just because Froch made it look easy does not necessarily mean someone else would.

And If Froch and Pavlik where to ever fight id be confident of a Froch K.O.

[bojangles1987]

Froch at 168 is far better than Pavlik. Can't see Pavlik doing the same.

[New England]

if carl froch fought kelly pavlik right now he'd probably knock him out

and kelly has a great chin and huge power. it's hard to knock a guy like that out. froch would knock him out


froch's win over bute has nothing to do with pavlik. froch is all around a much better fighter, and the styles are nothing alike.

[New England]

Froch at 168 is far better than Pavlik. Can't see Pavlik doing the same.

bute would have a much easier time moving about the ring with a plodder like pavlik

froch has good limey feet. much faster than they appear to be.

bute would have an easier time hitting pavlik as well. froch has very subtle defensive skills. kelly digs his feet into the canvas and puts on some earmuffs and takes the shots.


the only thing bute might have problems with is the right hand. his stance leaves him open to a right hand down the center. he also gives up his height. he fought froch like he was 5'9" tall.

froch can punch
kelly pavlik can knock a man completely senseless. he gets perfect extension with the right hand. take it away and he's got basically nothing. he's a natural 168lber at this stage in his life as well.

[NEETzsche]

pavlik wouldn't be able to handle bute's power.

[New England]

pavlik wouldn't be able to handle bute's power.

when you match two punchers you've got to take into consideration their chins

bute could not get out of the way of the froch right hand
it's disguised better than the pavlik right hand (behind two jabs or three and not much else,) but it's markedly slower and doesnt have the one punch power of kelly pavlik.


i'd favor bute only because pavlik's at such a bad spot in his career.

bute's clearly not an elite fighter. i have no reason to think he can breeze by any legitimate challenger.

[Broken Dreams**]

pavlik the drunk gets stopped by bute. butes still a damn good fighter. Bute - Froch canada, make it happen

[New England]

pavlik the drunk gets stopped by bute. butes still a damn good fighter. Bute - Froch canada, make it happen

bute is not a damn good fighter


he looked god awful against froch


and in '08 he was stopped by liberado andrade and the ref blew it.

even if you agree with the call, the guy went friggin life and death with liberado andrade