Which country has produced the most p4p champions and why?

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  • Jam Jars
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    #41
    Originally posted by 4Corners
    News to me. I did not know he gets blood and urine tested year round over in England.

    Still, the notion that Americans are the only ones using PED's on a large scale is most likely pretty false.
    WTF blood and urine random testing is not standard in america there's only been like 5 thats done it so stop talking like it is.

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    • 4Corners
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      #42
      Originally posted by Own3d
      100? Do you know how many people play those sports? I bet over 50% of NFL player. S.hit i bet 50% of americans juice just to eat 10 big mac meals in a row.
      Well actually the NFL has random testing for their players, as does MLB, and those two sports have really cleaned up and catch pretty much anyone know. There's still some holes though, see Ryan Brauns case.

      50% of Americans juice???? Man just stop.........If you don't like the USA that's fine, no need for dumb statements.

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      • 4Corners
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        #43
        Originally posted by Own3d
        WTF blood and urine random testing is not standard in america there's only been like 5 thats done it so stop talking like it is.
        Well in the NFL and MLB it is now, those sports have cleaned up big time and catch everyone basically now.

        And all I said was the notion that only American fighters use on a large scale in most likely false??? Meanwhile, you're randomly bringing up Big Mac's for some reason.....

        Meanwhile Rugby and Football over in Europe haven't cleaned up, at least not that I've heard. Dirk UK hasn't answered the question I asked about that though, because I really was curious if Rugby and Football players in Europe have cleaned up at all.
        Last edited by 4Corners; 05-24-2012, 07:50 PM.

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        • Kagami Taiga
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          #44
          Originally posted by 4Corners
          Well actually the NFL has random testing for their players, as does MLB, and those two sports have really cleaned up and catch pretty much anyone know. There's still some holes though, see Ryan Brauns case.

          50% of Americans juice???? Man just stop.........If you don't like the USA that's fine, no need for dumb statements.
          ignore these jealous idiots. they cant even keep it real with themselves.

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          • Barry Halls
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            #45
            Originally posted by 4Corners
            Well MLB and NFL have really cleaned up. What about Rugby and Football over on your side of the world????
            Yeah for sure. Now they only weigh 250lbs and squat 600lbs.



            Situation is under control!

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            • Roman Moreno
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              #46
              Originally posted by 4Corners
              News to me. I did not know he gets blood and urine tested year round over in England.

              Still, the notion that Americans are the only ones using PED's on a large scale is most likely pretty false.
              I don't know if Khan is doing blood test...It hasn't been clear. But, he does get random urine testing for sure. Even when he is not in camp, he gets tested by them. He gets it year round. And, they would come to the U.S to test if he is here. But, it's unclear as far as I know if blood testing is involved maybe Dirk knows if it is or not. But, he does get tested year round.

              However, I don't think that goes for every U.K athlete, for example I don't DeGale gets tested year round. But, then again Dirk might be able to correct me on that.

              Sauerland and his fighters like Abraham and kessler are working with WADA agency in Germany NADA in random blood and urine testing. They have it in contracts that opponents in Sauerland promoted events have to do it as well. They were actually the first to do this in the sport of professional boxing.

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              • Jam Jars
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                #47
                Originally posted by 4Corners
                Well actually the NFL has random testing for their players, as does MLB, and those two sports have really cleaned up and catch pretty much anyone know. There's still some holes though, see Ryan Brauns case.

                50% of Americans juice???? Man just stop.........If you don't like the USA that's fine, no need for dumb statements.
                OK name all non American champions that have been caught juicing and i'll name american ones lets see whos list is bigger.

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                • 4Corners
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Harry Balls
                  Yeah for sure. Now they only weigh 250lbs and squat 600lbs.



                  Situation is under control!
                  Well actually the NFL and MLB have really good testing now......and they catch pretty much anyone now. There's still holes though, see Ryan Brauns case in baseball.

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                  • Roman Moreno
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by 4Corners
                    Well in the NFL and MLB it is now, those sports have cleaned up big time and catch everyone basically now.

                    And all I said was the notion that only American fighters use on a large scale in most likely false??? Meanwhile, you're randomly bringing up Big Mac's for some reason.....

                    Meanwhile Rugby and Football over in Europe haven't cleaned up, at least not that I've heard. Dirk UK hasn't answered the question I asked about that though, because I really was curious if Rugby and Football players in Europe have cleaned up at all.
                    Is blood testing in MLB and NFL? Are you sure?

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                    • 4Corners
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Roman Moreno
                      Is blood testing in MLB and NFL? Are you sure?
                      Not sure if they get blood testing. I'm pretty sure they get urine testing year round though. Not sure on the Blood testing. They have been catching more and more cheats though since random testing was implimented.

                      My only point was the notion that Americans by percentage use more than other countries is most likely false.

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