Comments Thread For: Days Before Bute… A ****y Froch Channels Joe Calzaghe

[Mr. Philadel]

I think bute is overrated..........

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Froch will break him!!!

[GodInFleshSuit]

Froch is always dropping in 'legend' in interviews next to his name.

Getting dominated whilst your still in your pomp by another fighter at the same weight isn't the stuff legends are made from.

Losing to Mikkel Kessler who is an elite fighter of the division but isn't a fighter that anybody that deserves 'legend status' at that weight should lose to - once they are, or have been - a fully fledged World Champ.

Froch is desperate to be known as some sort of legend but, the reality is he was a good fighter in his division but has never been close to no:1 in his weight class let alone 2 weight classes.

Arguably - he is the joint 2nd, or even 3rd best fighter in the division he operates in and whilst it is a strong division with good fighters - Ward, Kessler, AA etc its not like Hagler, Leonard and Hearns quality is it.

CV - scrapped past both a shot MW in Taylor and a novice in Dirrell and lost to Kessler and dominated by Ward.

Decent over Pascal (but even a 47 Hopkins managed that) and AA.

And even if he beats Bute - he's fought nobody beaten nobody. If he beats Bute - then Bute is all hype (I think Bute is all hype) and will hold my hands up if he deals with Froch in a comfortable fashion.

Bute has to face and beat a dangerous, live guy in his pomp, so a win over him doesn't hold much water. However, if he beats Froch - who is a respected elite fighter then the next guy that faces Bute gets props.

I remember Froch saying before the Ward fight the a New York Cop said to him - are you Carl Froch the legend?

First of all - you don't say things like that, secondly, I reckon he made it up as he is desperate for people to talk about him in that manner.

The legend Carl Froch (in his own lunchtime) subsequently went on to get dominated and schooled by Andre Ward.

What Froch has to realise is - it isn't up to him to decide that he is a legend or not and is cringeworthy and smacks of desperation every time he says it.

There's a lot to like and admire about Froch - An elite fighter of his division he has been - a legend, purrrrleeease - do me a favour.

Froch a legend...NO! Froch a warrior...YES! Can he be a future hof'er? I think so. As long as he keeps on this path of fighting nothing but the top guys and ducking no one, then most definitely! I see what you're saying but the guy deserve credit for what he's done. It's been 3 years straight of him fighting nothing but the divisions best. Nobody does that anymore. That is the definition of throwback! I wish all boxers were like that these days.

[SAJ10]

Froch a legend...NO! Froch a warrior...YES! Can he be a future hof'er? I think so. As long as he keeps on this path of fighting nothing but the top guys and ducking no one, then most definitely! I see what you're saying but the guy deserve credit for what he's done. It's been 3 years straight of him fighting nothing but the divisions best. Nobody does that anymore. That is the definition of throwback! I wish all boxers were like that these days.

I give him full credit - like I said, plenty to like and admire about the guy. And, there are guys in the HOF that arguably have worse records than him.

I respect him but his record his v overrated as his fights have come one after the other, that's all I'm saying.

People seem to lose the ability to judge each fight on its merit when that happens and all of a sudden guys like 44 year old Glen Johnson that was moved down from LHW and had lost a shed load of fights including to guys like Clinton Woods become this fantastic win for Froch - simply because he once was a name and he came after a string of other well know guys.

AA the same - he was a name but shown to be very average but because he was a name in a v average MW division and then entered the S6 its again perceived as a great win by many.

Pascal (even though weight drained) W
Kessler L
Ward L

are the only guys I think were real top notch fights and he lost two of those one v badly.

Taylor past it MW - gets way too much credit
Dirrell - Novice and very green
AA
Johnson

Like I said, I respect Froch - he's a warrior and great for the sport but if he'd had other less known names on his resume and each fight was judged on the merit of whether the fighter was moving down from his natural weight and old (like Johnson) or moving up from his natural weight and past his best like Taylor etc - then the names on his resume wouldn't be as respected because if their situation at the time.

As they are one after the other - people just list the names and seem to forget the circumstances behind the fighter.

But - he certainly deserves credit and respect for his career, but he's never, ever close to being a legend, like he says.

The Kessler loss and particularly the Ward fight - and the manner in which he got badly dominated put that kind of thinking to bed.

[BattlingNelson]

So Fitz picks Froch by decision.

I'm leaning on a decisive win for Bute. I could see Bute stop Froch TBH. Froch doesn't like bodywork and Bute is one of the best bodypunchers in the world right now. I could see that work pave the way for a late stoppage on a somewhat shopworn Froch. Either that or a clear pointswin.

Of course if the fight is close the judges will probably favour the hometown hero, but I doubt that.

I'll be rooting for the cobra though.

[egodfather]

As a boxer I respect Froch. He comes across as a c**k but he fights the best. His style is a flawed and he's a lost a few but I respect him and we need more like him. He puts Calzaghe to shame if you ask me.

[gingeralbino]

So Fitz picks Froch by decision.

I'm leaning on a decisive win for Bute. I could see Bute stop Froch TBH. Froch doesn't like bodywork and Bute is one of the best bodypunchers in the world right now. I could see that work pave the way for a late stoppage on a somewhat shopworn Froch. Either that or a clear pointswin.

Of course if the fight is close the judges will probably favour the hometown hero, but I doubt that.

I'll be rooting for the cobra though.

i've been thinking Bute by KO due to his body punching, but as the fight gets closer my Froch tinted glasses are starting to kick in and im leaning towards a stoppage win for the cobra. Bute can be hurt reasonably easily when he gets hit on the chin. And if Froch hurts him he wont let him of the hook. I wont be putting any money on it though!

Brian Magee was on sky last night giving his insight on the 2 fighters. He never flat out said it but u could tell he thinks Bute's gonna win. He said he was expecting and anticipated Butes body punching, but never saw any of the punches that dropped him coming at all, and that Bute was very hard to hit.

[junior gong]

I have the most enormous respect for Froch, any true boxing fan should. That said, I pick Bute to win this on points. He will have to work his balls of for it, mind.

[The Guillotine]

Froch may not be my favorite fighter, but he has the heart and mindset of a champion -you gotta respect him for that. Can't wait for the fight this weekend.......

[cuzzlo]

Froch is overrated and limited, simple as, best wins against a shop worn, faded Jermain Taylor and outboxing a prime-less Glen johnson and outboxing Abraham who was 0-3 and clearly lacked the punch, authority or skills he'd shown at middle, oh and a contentious decision against Dirrell and a close loss against Kessler. Look, this dude..all he has is his dogged determination, his Volvo-automobile chin, conditioning, height and range... he gets hit way too clearly and if he was too move up would get ko'd easily, he won't move up and seek any new challenges and will remain a one division champ and former champ at best.

[nycsmooth]

I din't think Carl beats Bute or would've beat Joe...he quite 1 dimensional w/outh the ability 2 change or adept well during bouts & when behind or starting to catch it he walks straight in. His man-in-the mirror would be Arthur Abraham, same type...I like him as a boxer, fights the best & represents the sport well but he is what he is...