Im sorry Old school fighters are not automatically the best

[Barry Halls]

i remember Holmes beating Ali's old ass...i remember Tyson knocking Holmes out.....i remember Marciano beating Joe Louis through the ropes.i remember Camacho beating Leonard like he stole something

Yes and then we saw Lebedev beating Roy Jones JR.

It's just human evolution. Fact!

[The Gambler1981]

margarito is a skilled pressure fighter you know there is such a thing

No he is not~

There are skilled pressure fighters, Margarito threw a fuck ton of punches, a skilled guy doesn't waste like that and more to the point doesn't need to waste like that to be effective.

There are way better skilled pressure fighters~

[Tamis!]

Marvin Hagler is legit. I've seen him fight. Colors and everything.
But I'm pretty sure Robinson is black and white?

No i think Martinez would be the best in any era..

and definitely able to give the lower tier top10 some trouble.

Sergio can hang in there with 'em lower tier greats, and mind you that's a hell of a list thru the years.

But I don't think he'd be the best at any era.

Agreeto disagree no probs.

[IMDAZED]

i remember Holmes beating Ali's old ass...i remember Tyson knocking Holmes out.....i remember Marciano beating Joe Louis through the ropes.i remember Camacho beating Leonard like he stole something

You remember Marciano beating Louis through the ropes or did you just watch the clip? What went on in the early rounds?

[Larry the boss]

Yes and then we saw Lebedev beating Roy Jones JR.

It's just human evolution. Fact!

you are the one who posted that crap.i just responded

[The_Sandman]

I kind of agree with the TS's post. I mean, is it so hard to believe that fighters are going to continually evolve? The future fighters are always going to be more skilled and advanced than the past fighters. There are new training techniques today as well. The standard for the "best" is always going to change. Fighters are going to keep trying to break records. If fighters were sparring 15 rounds back in the days, today we have fighters sparring 5 minute rounds with no break and fresh sparring partners coming in every round. The only thing I see better about the past is that the fighters back then fought everybody and they just seemed more motivated back then.

[IMDAZED]

I always thought of Margarito as crowd pleasing personally, but he wasn't a technically sound boxer and just because he wasn't terrible at a few things doesn't make him "skilled" to me. It is really more a "glass is half full/empty" thing. Slickness and flair are a bit heavily emphasized nowadays when it comes to "skill" but that has more to do with the merging of athletes, celebrity and pop culture. This is like the hall of fame thing, it is all subjective. I would prefer a boxer who is multifaceted and demonstrates ability in many areas over guys who are exceptional at a couple things but downright terrible in other areas. I'm arguing this in my own head as I type, but when I think of Margarito I don't see a well rounded "skilled" boxer.

Margarito was solid technically. His defense was subpar (although in his prime it was much better than he's given credit for) and he was so slow that what was actually excellent boxing skills just looked lethargic.

[Barry Halls]

Sergio can hang in there with 'em lower tier greats, and mind you that's a hell of a list thru the years.

But I don't think he'd be the best at any era.

Agreeto disagree no probs.

The definition of "being the best in era" has changed drastically during the last few days so I'm using it *******ly.

[MRBOOMER]

You remember Marciano beating Louis through the ropes or did you just watch the clip? What went on in the early rounds?

From what I read and think I saw for awhile if I remember right it was somewhat competitive but Louis gassed and marciano ended it but I may be wrong don't quote me lol

[Larry the boss]

You remember Marciano beating Louis through the ropes or did you just watch the clip? What went on in the early rounds?

in the early rounds Lewis was trying his jab and got his ass beat and knocked through the damn ropes.hold up ill post the damn fight






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