If there is Pac and Marquez 4, should it be at 147?

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  • Bushbaby
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    #11
    Originally posted by hougigo
    What's the point in that... not like either man could fill out the weight
    Ok, lets simplify. Which fighter is closer to superwelterweight??

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    • Larry the boss
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      #12
      Originally posted by therealpugilist
      simply ..no...Marguez is a dwarf at 147
      looked fine to me at 147 with Manny

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      • Goldie
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        #13
        Originally posted by Harry Balls
        I don't think it's so much that jmms style is wrong for Pac as it is jmm being intelligent and skilled enough to always be one step ahead.

        Pac overcomes being (to be frank) outclassed strategically by being the superior athlete. He overcomes a lot against Marquez with his speed and power.
        I think the more Pac's athleticism declines he will just do worse and worse even against an over the hill Marquez. Because when Pac doesn't have the speed and power advantage over Marquez he will get absolutely outclassed.
        I agree. Personally, I think it's a risky fight for Paq because if it's another close fight the judges may feel the urge to give it to Marquez because of the controversy over the other decisions.

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        • CasualBoxingFan
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          #14
          Originally posted by Sweet Tooth
          even at 175 , jmm will still give him problems.

          1. no matter the weight class , pac and jmm are still about the same size.

          2. jmm style is just perfect to fight pac.

          Yeah, id say JMM is naturally smaller. when he moved up to the 130's and up, he started to get a gut, his frame is taller, but his body does'nt fill in the weight as naturally.

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          • Larry the boss
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            #15
            Originally posted by Bushbaby
            Ok, lets simplify. Which fighter is closer to superwelterweight??
            well actually JMM was 150 on fight night with Manny so he was a superwelterweght

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            • 4Corners
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              #16
              I think he'll ask for 144 again if they do, and I think Pac would be alright with that anyway.

              Marquez proved he can fight well at 144 lbs.

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              • Hougigo
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                #17
                Originally posted by Bushbaby
                Ok, lets simplify. Which fighter is closer to superwelterweight??
                By fighting class or weight, because Manny technically fights at 147, but Marquez comes in heavier.
                Look, it doesn't matter. Even if they fight at JMW, Pacs still going to stay light because getting heavier doesn't favor him at all.

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                • Alpha & Omega
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                  #18
                  JMM would beat Pac at any weight, like he has basically done already. Also, people need to understand, it is not that JMM "has Pac's number", because Morales beat Pac the same exact way. When Pac fights anyone with the skill/ability on par with JMM, he looks mediocre. As one other poster on here mentioned, Pac beats people with athleticism and power, not skill. It is his athleticism, not skill that wins his fights. That is why he may be in trouble against Bradley actually because he will be in the ring with someone just as strong, just as fast and explosive. He is not the better athlete in this matchup. As far as a JMM 4th fight, why bother, JMM will never be allowed to win one, which is a travesty.

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                  • Phenom
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by hougigo
                    Not like Pac is a giant
                    ok so why not fight at 140 if its not a disadvantage to anyone?

                    Marquez is going to give up atleast 2 pounds on the scales again but all that don't matter because they both weight the same on fight night
                    Last edited by Phenom; 05-20-2012, 05:23 PM.

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                    • Jcsuper
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                      #20
                      Im not interested in seeing Marquez beat Pacquiao and get robbed again

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