Floyd Mayweather jr, easily the best ever.

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  • therealpugilist
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    #81
    Originally posted by WESS
    lol you're all over the place.

    1. Nobody complained about the catchweight. The point you attempted to make about Floyd fighting Cotto after Pac, exposed the fact that Cotto had already been battered by Margarito. Funny you keep avoiding that because it doesn't suit your agenda... lol

    2. Who KO'ed the undefeated Hatton first? lol Silly goose... Hey at least Hatton fired his entire career long team to train for Pac and get that pay day before retirement.

    keep on trucking chief.
    damn somebody got owned

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    • Rolaz
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      #82
      Originally posted by LoadedWraps
      So, you are admitting Manny is a lesser fighter, because he has bled more in the ring?
      Come on man, I never mention Manny in this Thread. I was just commenting on Floyd's being glorified as the Greatest Defence Boxer.

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        #83
        Originally posted by WESS
        lol you're all over the place.

        1. Nobody complained about the catchweight. The point you attempted to make about Floyd fighting Cotto after Pac, exposed the fact that Cotto had already been battered by Margarito. Funny you keep avoiding that because it doesn't suit your agenda... lol

        2. Who KO'ed the undefeated Hatton first? lol Silly goose... Hey at least Hatton fired his entire career long team to train for Pac and get that pay day before retirement.

        keep on trucking chief.
        LMAO, you are the one who likes to keep changing topics..

        1. Good so at least we are settled on the issue that Pac's win is better than Floyd..

        2. Floyd KO'd Hatton first, and he deserves the credit there more than Pac.. But lol on your insinuation about Hatton's retirement.. The guy retired because he got so embarassed about that fight that he had to put that ******* in his system..

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          #84
          Originally posted by Rolaz
          Come on man, I never mention Manny in this Thread. I was just commenting on Floyd's being glorified as the Greatest Defence Boxer.
          I wouldn't say he is the best defensively ever, but if there is a top tier of defensive fighters in history, he is, and always will be in that selected few. And he is the only one besides Hopkins who is even close from this era.

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          • WESS
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            #85
            Originally posted by mikemurni
            LMAO, you are the one who likes to keep changing topics..

            1. Good so at least we are settled on the issue that Pac's win is better than Floyd..

            2. Floyd KO'd Hatton first, and he deserves the credit there more than Pac.. But lol on your insinuation about Hatton's retirement.. The guy retired because he got so embarassed about that fight that he had to put that ******* in his system..
            1. Believe what you want to believe but there is no agreement on that... However at least you understand the irony of your entire point on this topic about who beat who first. lol

            2. You are right, after Hatton publicly admitted that he was in fact embarrassed by the loss to Floyd he cried for weeks and drank a lot. He was depressed and like always gained a lot of weight. He also fired his entire team. I don't know if he did ******* at that time but you can believe what you want to believe. What ever helps you sleep at night chief... what ever helps you sleep at night.

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              #86
              Originally posted by WESS
              1. Believe what you want to believe but there is no agreement on that... However at least you understand the irony of your entire point on this topic about who beat who first. lol

              2. You are right, after Hatton publicly admitted that he was in fact embarrassed by the loss to Floyd he cried for weeks and drank a lot. He was depressed and like always gained a lot of weight. He also fired his entire team. I don't know if he did ******* at that time but you can believe what you want to believe. What ever helps you sleep at night chief... what ever helps you sleep at night.
              Manny fought Floyd's damaged goods and sloppy seconds in Hatton, he was never the same. Same goes for Mosley. And Floyd didn't beat him decisively, but Oscar also was a more credible opponent for Floyd than Manny. Everyone knows this. You know this. I know this.
              Last edited by LoadedWraps; 05-19-2012, 01:48 AM.

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                #87
                Originally posted by LoadedWraps
                I wouldn't say he is the best defensively ever, but if there is a top tier of defensive fighters in history, he is, and always will be in that selected few. And he is the only one besides Hopkins who is even close from this era.
                I have already suggested in my past comments that Boxing Sports-writers should award Yearly "THE DEFENSIVE FIGHTER OF THE YEAR' (DFOY)

                hopefully it will be taken into consideration at year's end 2012.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by WESS
                  1. Believe what you want to believe but there is no agreement on that... However at least you understand the irony of your entire point on this topic about who beat who first. lol

                  2. You are right, after Hatton publicly admitted that he was in fact embarrassed by the loss to Floyd he cried for weeks and drank a lot. He was depressed and like always gained a lot of weight. He also fired his entire team. I don't know if he did ******* at that time but you can believe what you want to believe. What ever helps you sleep at night chief... what ever helps you sleep at night.
                  1. No agreement to what.. You said its about who beat first.. So Pac beats Cotto first.. So therefore he got the better win.. Unless you want to start contradicting yourself again..
                  2. I am talking about Hatton's lose to Pac.. Hatton still had the will to continue to fight after the Floyd fight. So much so that he took the services of Floyd Sr, and start getting back on track with his win against Malugnaggi..He didnt do that against Pac..
                  Last edited by mikemurni; 05-19-2012, 01:52 AM.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by LoadedWraps
                    Manny fought Floyd's damaged goods and sloppy seconds in Hatton, he was never the same. Same goes for Cotto. And Floyd didn't beat him decisively, but Oscar also was a more credible opponent for Floyd than Manny. Everyone knows this. You know this. I know this.
                    I agree, however Floyd did in fact beat Cotto decisively. The fight was great and Floyd made it exciting by not running. There is no denying it, Floyd beat Cotto.

                    I was there at the MGM, I gave Cotto 3 rounds (2, 6, 8) when I watched it live. 2 rounds (6, 8) when I watched it on TV. Cotto was a true warrior but Floyd beat him and quit comfortably too. There is no argument without lying to yourself. That or you simply can not judge a fight honestly or without being biased.

                    Anyway, on topic, I do not find the Pac Bradley fight very intriguing. No way does the Bradley out box Pac like JMM (who can't get a decision) and no way does the Bradley KO Pac.

                    Bradley will not win and EVEN if he does, he will not get the nod. Again Bradley will have to get a KO and that is no happening. It's funny that Pac is a WW and he didn't get his belt without a catchweight, he hasn't fought a WW champion since winning the WW strap. It's really pathetic, but at least Bradley isn't a shot fighter coming off losses like Clottey, Margarito and Mosley....

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by WESS
                      I agree, however Floyd did in fact beat Cotto decisively. The fight was great and Floyd made it exciting by not running. There is no denying it, Floyd beat Cotto.

                      I was there at the MGM, I gave Cotto 3 rounds (2, 6, 8) when I watched it live. 2 rounds (6, 8) when I watched it on TV. Cotto was a true warrior but Floyd beat him and quit comfortably too. There is no argument without lying to yourself. That or you simply can not judge a fight honestly or without being biased.

                      Anyway, on topic, I do not find the Pac Bradley fight very intriguing. No way does the Bradley out box Pac like JMM (who can't get a decision) and no way does the Bradley KO Pac.

                      Bradley will not win and EVEN if he does, he will not get the nod. Again Bradley will have to get a KO and that is no happening. It's funny that Pac is a WW and he didn't get his belt without a catchweight, he hasn't fought a WW champion since winning the WW strap. It's really pathetic, but at least Bradley isn't a shot fighter coming off losses like Clottey, Margarito and Mosley....
                      I mean't Mosley not Cotto, and fixed my post probably while you were typing this lol, sorry. Floyd did beat Cotto decisively, but after Manny did (obviously Margarito ruined him before Manny). I was listing Fighters Floyd fought first, and Manny thrived on as sloppy seconds.
                      Last edited by LoadedWraps; 05-19-2012, 02:03 AM.

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